Originally Posted By Bolna Ok, a 200$ dollar price increase is a lot of money to suddenly find in your travel budget. But: this price increase does not mean such a high increase for an average family!! The highest increase I could find for a MYW ticket is for the 10-day park hopper with water park option, that's 31$ price increase per adult, 35$ per kid. If we are talking about a 5-day park hopper it is 15$ per adult and 19$ per kid. The number might have come from that one post which I quoted as follows: <<I’m literally crying my eyes out right now. Our family of 5 now has to come up with an additional $250 in order for us to get the Premier Passes again?!?! The economy is hard enough, now we have to save up more money for a trip we’ve been planning since last September. Guess we’ll be avoiding the gift shops in the parks. Our extra spending cash will be wrapped up in just getting through the gates >> They are talking about the premier pass here! Which gets you access to WDW and DL for a year. That's a luxury item in itself I would say. The scary thing though is: my simple examples seem to show that they raised the kids' prices more than the adults'...
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb Actually the highest jump is for the Premier, which admittedly few people will get. It jumps $50.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yeah, that was a major detractor from that woman's point. But in general, that comment does stand. 200 bucks is a lot.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "If the price went up 200 bucks..." EE - I believe that poster was referring to that price affecting a family, not an individual. I ticket prices for ONE PERSON went up by RWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, I'd be pissed too!!!
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "In the not too distant past many would have just whipped out the credit card and just done it, knowing that the home equity ATM was availble. Now not only is there no "equity ATM" but many homeowners are underwater in their mortgages and worried about their jobs. Suddenly those cummulative price increases do matter." And hence the massive financial hole the US and a lot of the rest of the world has found itself in! My point is now relevant on a national(worldwide?)scale. Such imprudent "It can all go on the credit card/let's all go to DISNEY WORLD!!!" thinking is indicative of massive financially irresponsible thinking. My late grandmother(living on a state pension since being widowed in the sixties)never had a credit card and lived by the motto, "If I want something, I save the money and buy it once I have enough". She died leaving her family money set aside for her own funeral, extra to be shared and an estate including house and land. It's called saving and being responsible.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 "I ticket prices for ONE PERSON went up by RWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, I'd be pissed too!!!" Of course, I meant "If" and "TWO". Suddenly I'm Scooby Doo!!!
Originally Posted By standor In 2000 you would get at least 5% on your money in the bank so the interest would grow and you would have more money coming in every month. Now you are lucky to get 1/2 of 1%. If you have $60,00 you would probably get a little over $5 per month compared to about $75 per month. I would book my reservations 8 months in advance and I would pay myself back and by the time I left home, a lot of that money came back to me. Can't be done today.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Same here in Australia. But look on the bright side! You guys have ZERO PERCENT interest loans for your homes, right?!?! WOW!!!! Here, it's like 4.5% or something and a basic house in my neighbourhood went from $56,000 in 1995 to about $460,000!!! A home not far from me went for a HALF MILLION a year ago and these are NOT mansions - typical working class homes, some forty years old on quarter acre blocks!!! We are lucky here in Australia that the GFC passed us by but in other ways NOT so lucky! Again, watch that Couponing show - I have shown some people here and they are LIVID this does not happen in Australia - last week there was a woman who got OVER THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS worth of groceries for ONLY $45.00!!!! In many ways, you guys are MUCH better off!!!
Originally Posted By disneykid90 >>Actually the highest jump is for the Premier, which admittedly few people will get. It jumps $50.<< My father and I have a premier and this was our first year purchasing one (I bought mind out of pocket. 21 year old college student). We used DVC discount to buy them. My mother and younger brother have each have a standard AP. We drive from Va three to four times a year or fly in at least once a year. The annual pass increase does not only hit the "kids" but the people who do travel a good distance. It is a better buy than say 20 days worth of ticket values. I can only anticipate the increase in maintenance fees of the LP's "beloved" DVC ....... Which would affect me as well. Breaking point.... Breaking point.... what shall it be and when shall it come.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But look on the bright side! You guys have ZERO PERCENT interest loans for your homes, right?!?!<< Uh, no. Individuals do not get such sweet deals. Banks can borrow from the Federal Reserve for about 0%, and deposits at banks pay at most 1%. >>Here, it's like 4.5% or something and a basic house in my neighbourhood went from $56,000 in 1995 to about $460,000!!!<< That's about the going rate here as well. The main difference is that unlike in Oz the housing bubble popped in the US and in some areas prices have dropped 50% or more. Some people are so far underwater that they choose to stop paying the mortgage and are waiting to be kicked out (in some cases it takes 2 or more years for that to happen).
Originally Posted By fkurucz From Citimortgages website: Product Type: 30 Year Fixed 15 Year Fixed Mortgage Term: 30 Years 15 Years APR: 4.785 4.225 Interest Rate: 4.500 % 3.625 % Points 0.875 1.250
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Taking Bolna's numbers between 2005 and 2011. Has the Disney experience been increased 52 dollars? ---- has the quality of gasoline increased 150% since 2006 when it was $2.48 a gallon ? Is my state ( Illinois) giving me more services for my 66 2/3% increase in state income tax ? is my electricity 48% better than it was in 2006 ? did the US post office get 13% better since 2006 really if you don't think all these factors play into thecost of admission at Disney - ballgames- museums- zoos etc.. and just look for equal value to the increaes back-- your just as guilt of thinking pixie dust somehow covers these expenses as some of the POllyana's that get ripped for not seeing mantenance changes the last decade etc. IF Disney had increased the experience exponentially- the ticket price increase would now be even greater -
Originally Posted By vbdad55 make no mistake I am not happy about ANY prices increases right now-- that didn't stopmy givernor and his bunch for freakin crooks here in Illinois from taking another 2% of my paycheck starting in January to feed the corruption here. Didn't stop my utility of gas increaes- my medical cover age from work rising $100 / yr for 4 straight years etc. Disney has to deal with most of these factors also-- doesn't make me like it- but I'm not going to pretend themarket pressure of goods and services doesn't affect them either.
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 vbdad - WHOAH! Slow down there buddy! From the mistakes in your posts, I'd say you're about three minutes from popping a vein in your ol' brain!!! "givernor"?!?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 givenir---- yeah just saw that wasn't watching screen and just noticed batteries in wireless keyboard needed changing badly-- space bar was not working well and some individual keys screwy -- all better now -- sorry
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> EE - I believe that poster was referring to that price affecting a family, not an individual. I ticket prices for ONE PERSON went up by RWO HUNDRED DOLLARS, I'd be pissed too!!!<<<< Even so. It's still 200 bucks more than you planned for. I don't know why the value or cost is different between a group of people or just one person...
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Because if it's $200 for one person and you have a family of four, that makes an increase of $800! I CAN see THAT being a "we can't afford to go this year" dealbreaker. If it's $50 per person for a family of four, that is not as much.
Originally Posted By dshyates I think the biggest problem is that Disney sat idle during the "Great Recession". We were all saying that they should be investing back then while construction costs were lower. Everyone saw the inflation coming and said build now and sit idle during peak cost periods. But Disney sat idle during the recession, have nothing new to pimp. And then raise ticket prices. Not really a recipe for customer satisfaction. vbdad, back then you excused Disney for not building like stupid ol' Universal. And now you excuse them for raising ticket prices with no new offerings. Admittedly you do throw out minor grievences to "prove" you are not a total Pixie-Duster, but it really sounds like it to me. You should just go ahead and say "Sorry, I just really love Disney. So sue me."
Originally Posted By Bolna <<really if you don't think all these factors play into thecost of admission at Disney - ballgames- museums- zoos etc.. and just look for equal value to the increaes back-- your just as guilt of thinking pixie dust somehow covers these expenses as some of the POllyana's that get ripped for not seeing mantenance changes the last decade etc.>> vbdad, but that was exactly the reason why I did the math and took the inflation out in my calculation. The $52 increase is outside of inflation - and all the issues you mentioned are included in the inflation rate. Of course some things might hit Disney harder than others and not all the items in the market basket would have the same increase. But I tried to make at least a somewhat sensible comparison.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<Yeah, that was a major detractor from that woman's point. But in general, that comment does stand. 200 bucks is a lot. >> I agree with you, having to find an additional $200 in a travel budget is a lot of money. However, if you look at it realistically, if it is about $20 per person (as this price increase most likely is going to be), a lot of people would be able to reallocate some money they have budgeted for - get a cheaper meal, buy less drinks or buy less souvenirs. That's why it also might be easier for a family to find money in their travel budget than for a single traveler. For example, if ice cream is $2, not getting ice cream would save a family of five already $10.
