Originally Posted By RoadTrip When this kid gets back to school he may just find out what it feels like to REALLY be sucker-punched.
Originally Posted By jkayjs This video and response(by the parents and media) is exhibit A of why the cost of theme park tickets and everything else is skyrocketing. So not only is this most likely blown out of proportion but this little incident that "ruined" this families vacation will soon affect all guests. We will likely see even higher prices and perhaps little or no access to the characters. I'm not suggesting that any CM has the right to attack a guest. But this has little resemblance to any attack I have ever witnessed.
Originally Posted By DAR This reminds of the Itchy and Scratchy Land episode of the Simpsons when Bart kept kicking Itchy. "Attention Marge Simpson we have arrested your son. We have also arrested your older fatter balder son too."
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey I just looked at the video again and it seems to me that the kid looked like he was up to something. If someone was choking me, as someone else said on this thread (or the other Tigger thread) I'd do whatever I could to get him off me. It's also possible that Tigger meant to just push the kid away and accidentally "punched" him in the face (and I think "punched" is the wrong word to use here - that was no punch. My 78 year mother probably hits harder than that!). Either way, this is definitely a mountain made out of a molehill-some nobody wants to make the big corporation pay and get their 15 minutes of fame. I also agree about the kid's outfit - he's dressed like a thug in the video, but he looks all sweet and innocent in his pretty blue t-shirt during the interview. What a scam!
Originally Posted By danyoung >OK, all of you look at the tape again and notice that Tigger is indeed falling backwards and looks like he is losing his balance. < Any move off balance happens AFTER the arm lock and the swing. Look at the video carefully - you can pinpoint the second where Tigger's entire demeanor changes. If, as was reported, the CM couldn't breathe, I'm sure there's a bit of panic there, no matter how well trained he was. He would do just about anything to get the kid to back off. And that appears to be exactly what happened. There was no animosity between the two of them after the incident. It was a big nothing, until Dad got involved, looked at the tape, and started to see dollar signs.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >> Tigger would have had my foot up his costumed butt. << What's wrong with you people? Does the word Troll mean anything to you! What a crook of crap that post was!
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Does the word Troll mean anything to you! << Do you mean the word "Troll" to refer to the "costumed butt" part, or the "What's wrong with you" part?
Originally Posted By GoofBall OKay, seriously - is John Q Public really buying this story... At WDW a boy on vacation with his family went up to Tigger and gave a warm innocent hug and in return Tigger slugged him with a left hook causing injury, for no reason, while his dad stood there with a video tape? Get real people! I think I saw this dad buying an extra hot coffee from McDonalds too What a scam. The more I think about this the more I get angered. I am writing to Disney to support the CM and to also plead that they not reward this family with hush money. I think public needs to hear the CM's side and this family needs to be humiliated. I hope when they return home they are the pariah of their community.
Originally Posted By barboy "(after Tigger's vicious mauling at the Crystal Palace)My wife and daughter are fine," You are fishing for sympathy and I won't give you any.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle I think the family will end up being humiliated no matter what (don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining about that). They just have a sleazy look about them and I don't think they're going to get much sympathy. The comment about "who wants to admit to being beat up by Tigger?" was hysterical and so true! If Tigger was reacting in the heat of the moment from being strangled, and accidentally hit the kid in the face (I'm not going to say "punched") it's quite possible the head-rubbing afterwards was a sort of non-verbal "I'm sorry". Not that he'd even have to offer that, but he clearly wasn't feeling aggressive and he didn't try to run. Of course, the whole situation would be much funnier if Tigger was really a girl.
Originally Posted By Roger55 Looks like Tigger has made a statement through his union. <a href="http://www.wftv.com/news/10697738/detail.html" target="_blank">http://www.wftv.com/news/10697 738/detail.html</a> "ORLANDO, Fla. -- A New Hampshire teenager said home video proves he was attacked by Tigger at Disney-MGM Studios. But, Channel 9 has learned Tigger said he was the one who was attacked. A union representative for him said he was pulled and was choking, adding he was just trying to escape from the teen." So that's the CM's side of the incident. As many have speculated, the CM is claiming he was being pulled on by the teen, choking him. "Jerry Monaco, Sr. said he took his son to the hospital a day after it happened because his son complained of neck problems. He was even prescribed a painkiller, codeine." Codeine? For that slap? IF he was in pain, the doctor should have told him to take a Tylenol. Looks like another opportunity for the Monaco Sr. to sue the doctor for getting his kid addicted to codeine. "Monaco has retained an attorney. Eyewitness News asked Monaco if he's planning to file a lawsuit to get money. "Gimme a break," he said." So much explained in such few words.
Originally Posted By imtigger2 I hope some of you don't mind me cross-posting.... but here's my comment from the "Home Video shows Tigger..." thread: ----- Seriously, even being a Tigger lover myself, I looked at this with an open mind. Watch the slow motion part, look how off-balance the kid is... on one foot, almost about to topple over. IF Tigger so much as "pushed" him too hard, that kid would have gone over that little fence there. Because the kid didn't, there's no way he hit him "pretty hard.." like the kid says. The costume is bulky, and it's very hard to see with it. In my opinion, Tigger lifted his left hand high to avoid hitting the child below with his hand, turned to hold, grab, or move the tall kids hand, or to grab for something... then his hand 'swiped' the side of the kids head. These people are whining about nothing and obviously, by getting the news media involved, are just looking for plenty of attention. Just looking for an apology? Right. After 3 manager CM's apologized, that's not good enough for Dad. What does he 'really' want? I guess we'll see after all those hit-n-run lawyers see him spouting off in front of the news cameras. It truly makes me ill.. People, just get over it, and move on. From the footage we're all seeing, there's not a single scratch on your kids head.. just his ego. Dan B imtigger Carlsbad, CA
Originally Posted By Roger55 Lemme translate fo you... Gimme a break = "You bet ahm gonna sue them Disney pepuhl. Juniyah, how hawd did he hit you again?"
Originally Posted By Tiggirl Im going to say, while I can certainly see this kid tugging on the costume, I don't see his arm move enough to cause "Tigger" hard. I honestly think the CM snapped and retaliated when he shouldn't have. I've seen and heard of CM's snapping. (I know of one person who got fired after telling a guest to move faster at boarding a ride and that they were too fat... just cause they had a bad day. And yes... that CM is gone.) My personal opinion is... Kid and family should get nothing and Tigger should get "released from duty." Both are at fault. ~Beth
Originally Posted By GalDisney This thing will get thrown out of court, and if Disney is smart, they won't"settle", Why settle if 'Tigger" is innocent?
