Originally Posted By Mr X ***"Actually, the characters get choked all the time. They are used to it (breathing is occasionally impossible inside those costumes anyway, and miscarriages are horribly common)." Wait...what??? I hope that's not serious, because THAT would be something to get upset about.*** Dead serious. Think about it...lack of oxygen is bad for a fetus.
Originally Posted By TheHoop If it gets to this point, I hope that Disney fights 'em back legally This is crazy. They can outlast them financially-so they should stick this all the way through to the end of the court process. It's obvious these folks want the media hype so that they can 'settle' out of court. Crazy.
Originally Posted By juicer Its all realy sad That family should be ashamed - Especially the father - The video clearly showed that the boy was not hurt and that he did do something wrong (behind Tiggers back) to make Tigger lose balance - I want this family to be banned from ANY Disney park in the world
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle If they end up settling or getting money out of it, they should definitely be banned. After all, what's to stop the kid antagonising characters again, seeing another payday? Besides, it's all been such a horrible and harrowing ordeal for them that they wouldn't want to set foot on Disney property again anyway, I'm sure.
Originally Posted By DeniedX The family should be ashamed. I think the punk got what he deserved. Wait, I lied. Tigger should have landed a few more on the punk for being disrespectful. In addition, I think Tigger should have landed one on the old man as well.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Dead serious. Think about it...lack of oxygen is bad for a fetus." Wow, that's just sad. They should never allow pregnant women to be in costume then. I'm surprised this isn't a bigger deal, because that is a very serious on-the-job health risk that Disney should be aware of and preventing. Does Disney issue any kind of warning to the CM's?
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy I don't think characters get choked or deprived of oxygen significantly. Except possibly intermittently, when the costume is grabbed by a guest. (Either on purpose or accidentally) This business of miscarriages is news to me. I've never heard of it.
Originally Posted By gaston lives <<>> Does the word Troll mean anything to you! << Do you mean the word "Troll" to refer to the "costumed butt" part, or the "What's wrong with you" part?<<<<<< I'm sorry, I wondered if I made myself clear or not. I was referring to the costumed butt part. That whole story about the wife and 16 month old was just totally unbelievable and designed to create a controversy. I meant it only in the nicest of ways regarding the response. I was in complete agreement with how foolish this whole thing is. I also take exception to the repeated use of the phrase, "he lost it". That film shows no such thing...only a reaction to something happening and a obvious, to me at least, slight loss of balance. If he had lost it he would have reacted verbally and not stayed in character. Let's face it, this is just a no class group of people trying to make the "deep pockets" of Disney grease their lives. They do not care who gets hurt in the process only that they get what they want. I find them to be the most despicable type of people on the planet. Pure white trash!>> I take massive offense to the fact that you say that my story never happened. I was just there, and it DID happen. My 16 month old daughter was being held by my wife in the Crystal Palace. I had just taken their picture with Tigger, and my daughter reached for his nose, and he freaked out, pushed them aside (via my baby's head) and ran off. Maybe he had explosive diarhhea, and maybe he didn't. The family is fine, but I will say it again: I don't care if you are in a costume or not, but IF he had pushed them hard enough to either make them fall or snap my baby's head aruond, he would have had a 6'3" 210 pound white, angry guy all over his costumed booty. I am NOT making this up. I am GLAD that nothing happened too extremely, but I'll never know what happened with this character. I did not complain to anybody though, because it wasn't worth bringing up. I don't like the way you guys are putting me in the same boat as the people who are suing WDW, becuase I am not like that. So take it for what it's worth, but any father out there would do the same to protect their children. If not, then I'm glad those people are not MY parents.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I had just taken their picture with Tigger, and my daughter reached for his nose, and he freaked out, pushed them aside (via my baby's head) and ran off.>> I am doubting "he freaked out." For one thing, Tigger's nose is not the CM's nose. Maybe the CM was acting scared of your baby, and you merely interpreted it another way. Since you say there was no harm, I conclude there was no foul. That's my take on it anyway.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I am NOT making this up. << I have no doubt the event occurred. But when you respond so quickly with a "foot up a costumed butt" comment, I have to think you're jumping much too quickly. That is what people are responding to. Not that the incident didn't happen. Disney stands behind it's parks and characters. If a problem happens, real or perceived, they respond well and quickly. They do NOT make a practice of stonewalling people or denying service. It wouldn't be Disney. If a character is at fault, they're history. Disney CM's know this. It's part of the Disney CM Code. We're glad it's there. Only the best are allowed to be friends of characters. But you would jump on Tigger that quickly? I presume everyone is ok.
Originally Posted By Tiggirl Uh... If Tigger injured his baby or wife (which he made clear did not happen) I'd say he'd have every right to be more than a little upset. Not that I'm condoning someone actually beating up a CM for that but if the CM's actions were unwarrented (which in this case sounds like they were) AND the CM ended up causing physical harm then yes... gastons lives would have good reason to get upset and to so something about it. ~Beth
Originally Posted By gaston lives From an earlier post: <<That whole story about the wife and 16 month old was just totally unbelievable and designed to create a controversy. >> That's what I was responding to. Yes, they are fine, BUT if they weren't, yes, I would do something about it. If you notice, not once have I said it was his clear intent to do something rash, it was just a little shocking, that's all. I know that Tigger's eyes are in his mouth, and he probably just got startled. I did not complain, and do not plan to. How hard is that to understand?
Originally Posted By barboy "The family is fine" I am really relieved to find this out because I was on pins and needles thinking that your young one might have suffered permanent brain damage and your wife would have gone into a spiraling depression all because of Tigger. Please gaston, stop fishing for sympathy because you don't deserve it.
Originally Posted By barboy Gaston, I owe you an apology for my sarcasm, sorry. After rereading it it was unfair and harsh.
Originally Posted By barboy "I didn't think he was fishing for sympathy with his comments" Yes, he was....that is why it showed up 2 or three times but that doesn't excuse what I wrote. I should have been more civil.
Originally Posted By Tiggirl I'm pretty sure he was relating a story that happened to him in reference to the story at hand. You know, to show people who might think CM's are sent from heaven, by Walt directly, to casting and can do no wrong. I didn't see him ask for sympathy once nor did his story come across as a pity party to me. ~Beth
Originally Posted By gaston lives I was not fishing for anything. LIke Tiggirl says, I was relating a story that occurred on the same day as the one that made headlines.
Originally Posted By guerillagorilla The one aspect that I think everyone should remember is that for every one incident of this caliber, there are many hundreds of such incidents that don't even raise an eyebrow. It's just too bad that this reminds us that there really are families such as the Monacos at large. At least the majority of us see them for the hack jobs they really are.
