Originally Posted By Dabob2 <If you want to keep with a sports theme Hillary has now entered Hack A Barrack mode, similar to Hack A Shaq.> Good one, DAR! I've started thinking about possible Veeps for Obama again. I've already floated Jim Webb here - he's from Virginia (a purple state trending blue the Democrats think might be in play this year), Secretary of the Navy under Reagan so he beefs up Obama's foreign policy/military cred, and he also opposed going into Iraq for all the right reasons right from the start, so he wouldn't have to realign that important position with Obama, and he opposed it for reasons that couldn't be spun as "weak" or anything like that (basically he said "of course our military can take down Hussein. But THEN what? Then we're going to be the occupying power of an artificial country made up of people who have fought for centuries. And it'll help Iran."). I still think he's a good choice. But another possibly good choice it seems to me is Claire McCaskill. She's from Missouri, another swing state. (In fact, the ultimate swing state - it's voted for the winner, Rep. or Dem., in every presidential race except one since 1900 IIRC - it's the ultimate bellwether state). She's moderate, articulate, attractive in a very wholesome midwest way, and has been an important backer of Obama's from early on. Also - she's a woman. And that might well appeal to all those Clinton diehards who are very, very bummed that it looks like we won't have a woman president this year, something they dearly wished to see. But at least they could vote in the first woman vice president. The more I see her, the more I think this could be a very canny choice.
Originally Posted By ecdc Good theories, Dabob2. Is Virginia still considered part of the "south" by southerners (it was part of the Confederacy, but it seems somehow different than a place like Mississippi or even Georgia). Because Obama would also get some southern votes if it was. I've thought about John Edwards to bring in that southern vote, but I don't think that's as important to Obama. I've also wondered about Richardson, who brings part of the Latino vote. But is the Latino vote enough to swing a state like, say, Texas, when California will probably go for Obama anyway and so he doesn't need to bolster the Latino vote there. Interesting stuff. McCaskill is a great idea, too. She's very well spoken and bright; I always enjoy hearing her on talk shows. I think she also brings a lot to the table.
Originally Posted By ecdc There still seems to be a big shift in the media, vis a vis covering Hillary. She's gone from the fighter or the comeback kid to Hillary the Defiant. The coverage used to be focused on how it wasn't over yet; now it's on how it's over but she just doesn't want to throw in the towel. I think it'd be smart for Obama to move forward like it's over. Start talking like it's over. But then again, maybe not. Maybe that'd just further alienate Hillary supporters, who we'll need in November. Again, interesting stuff.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip On the Republican side, never underestimate Minnesota's governor Tim Pawlenty and his ability to bring in the idiot vote.
Originally Posted By DisneyFreak96 <<Also - she's a woman. And that might well appeal to all those Clinton diehards who are very, very bummed that it looks like we won't have a woman president this year, something they dearly wished to see. But at least they could vote in the first woman vice president. The more I see her, the more I think this could be a very canny choice.>> As a woman who would love to see a woman in a power position (but won't vote for one just because she's a woman..hence my support for BO) I think this would be a great choice. It would never hurt to bring someone in who is not from "the north" even if Missouri isn't actually a southern state, and she is well spoken, which is great for the VP position where she will be dealing with foreign governments as our "White House ambassador"
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <It would never hurt to bring someone in who is not from "the north" even if Missouri isn't actually a southern state,> Missouri was a slave state, but didn't secede. My mom is from Missouri. What I always say about Missouri is: "It's not exactly the south. But it's not exactly NOT the south." â„¢
Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/10/us/politics/10clinton.html?_r=1&ref=us&oref=slogin" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05...f=slogin</a> According to the New York Times, Obama now leads in superdelegates, although they curiously don't offer any numbers.
Originally Posted By DisneyFreak96 <<Missouri was a slave state, but didn't secede. My mom is from Missouri. What I always say about Missouri is: "It's not exactly the south. But it's not exactly NOT the south." â„¢>> Yes, Missouri is a state all its own. My grandmother, who raised me, was born and raised in Hannibal and it was a real learning experience to be around her. I love your saying, as it is so true.
