Timeline for redo of DCA?

Originally Posted By Bob Paris

But wait a minute Westsider, I thought Al was all about doom and gloom and depression for the DLR?

Wait a minute......once the WDC actually started caring about it and started spending money, guess what? He actually starts praising them and the improved conditions.


Funny how that works, isn't it?

 

Originally Posted By Dabob2

<>It's that last part:
"John Lasseter wants everyone to remember that."

Is what I loved most! LOL>

Actually, that's what bothers me about Al. That part about what Lasseter "wants" is pure speculation. Al has no idea what Lasseter wants, yet he presents it as though it's fact.

He should just stick to what he knows (which, if bean is to be believed, may not be as much as he claims).

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

"but I don't think I've ever seen a Art Deco pier"

There is a lot of art deco all over the Santa Cruz Boardwalk, which DCA is kind of emulating.

But as someone else says, there's all sorts of styles, they weren't built with a theme, per se, but just as a collection of different things.

The 20s were when these piers hit their peak, it would be kind of appropriate to have that sort of thing in the pier.

I think they should have made a break with disney's traditional victorian everywhere theme. You can do too much of it.

 

Originally Posted By Sport Goofy

Most seaside piers I have visited are very eclectic -- there's no single style there. I think DCA tried to emulate this, but it just wasn't executed all that well.

 

Originally Posted By dshyates

The problem with the pier is that it never was designed to look like a California Pier. Eisner wanted Luna Park from Coney Island. This is Eisner's concept of a good park. They shoved this concept onto a Pier-ish area and then slathered it with '60s Californian Beach Culture.
Given the GIANT Luna Park influences, what with The Wonder Wheel, Big White Roller Coaster, and Ariel's, My guess is it makes more sense to continue the Victorian Luna Park look than to change everything. They did include a cool Art Deco sign for Screamin', but thats going.
Given what they had to work with, and how much other fixes are financially required. A beautiful Victorian Boardwalk will have to suffice.
It never looked like a Californian Pier, and from the look of things it never will. Unless the Hotel Del decides to build a Luna Parkesque Pier.

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

"The problem with the pier is that it never was designed to look like a California Pier. Eisner wanted Luna Park from Coney Island."

Funny, it doesn't look like Luna Park at all. It actually looks a lot like Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

It looks very much like the SC Boardwalk. Down to some very specific details. I can't post photos here, and MI is closed at the moment where I had them, but if you go there, you can see a very similar look. That, and POP. Lots of POP influence. I don't remember much about the Long Beach Pike. Didn't go there as it was kind of scary...

 

Originally Posted By Socrates

If changes are being pushed back, perhaps DCA isn't the financial drag that some people think?

Socrates
"The unexamined life is not worth living."

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

I was thinking the same thing. Obviously the company is being very strategic about the changes.

OAN, It's interesting how the DCA sucks discussions have all but dried up since the news broke that Disney is reinvesting in the place.

 

Originally Posted By bean

"He should just stick to what he knows (which, if bean is to be believed, may not be as much as he claims)."

Al could be right in many of the things he said. There are many people involved in the expansion and not all of us know sometimes the changes going on with certain projects.

The timelines he gave sound a bit off from the last ones i had heard but things have been changing almost everyday.

for example the orange stinger was staying not to long ago now its being decided that it will be removed along with Maliboomer.

Last i heard there was still issues on starting prep work on Cars Land before having a positive solution on where to displace those cars.

things change so much its sometimes dificult to pinpoint things. This is one of the reasons some sites hold of on updates for so many weeks.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

"on where to displace those cars."

What does this mean?

 

Originally Posted By Brown Monkey

>>things change so much its sometimes dificult to pinpoint things. This is one of the reasons some sites hold of on updates for so many weeks.<<

But the reason why one would hold back for so long would be so that when the news is more publicly announced, it should by then be more concrete. If it's never a guarantee, then why hold back?

 

Originally Posted By Brown Monkey

>>"on where to displace those cars."

What does this mean?<<

The cars that are currently parked in the Timon Lot by regular park guests, I'm assuming?

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

OH! OK. I could not figure out what was being said...

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

Hey bean ...
going back several pages in this thread ...
thanks for dropping the hint on a holiday "World of Color" show.

During this last Christmas season .. listening to lots of Christmas music .. and thinking of this show in the works ...

I was thinking it was one of those "Duh, of course they are" things ... that a Holiday "World of Color" will debut as well.

DCA has a lot to catch up with ... with it's sister park with so many Christmas related things to do ... while DCA for the last 7 years has really had diddly.

I almost was going to make it a whole topic about a Holiday WoC.

I don't know if the show producers are thinking all "singing" songs for the holiday show ... But if anyone ever gave it some thought ....... Some of the most beautiful holiday music arrangements that would fit appropriately for a water pageant .. would be instrumental pieces.
(Percy Faith, Hollyridge Strings, David Rose, etc.) Because the water fountains are "center stage". Singing can sometimes take away from a majestic towering water show.

- Just my own thoughts on dancing waters shows.

 

Originally Posted By gadzuux

Well then how about some flamboyant guy in sequined hot pants playing a grand piano with candelabras?

That could work.

 

Originally Posted By Westsider

Not without a two-drink minimum, gadzuux.

 

Originally Posted By jmuboy

LOL at posts 136 and 137!

 

Originally Posted By oc_dean

uhhh
there's no question....
Liberace is clearly one dated (tacky) element out of the 1960s.
But if you are saying there is anything dated about some of the instrumental music that came out of the 60s ...
go talk to the people in charge for Main Street's music for the holidays ..
which includes Jingle Bell Rock from the Hollyridge Strings ... and a piece or two from David Rose.

There are some musical pieces that are timeless ... fit .. and nothing tacky about them at all! Like Liberace!

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

> It's interesting how the DCA sucks discussions have all but dried up since the news broke that Disney is reinvesting in the place.<

I don't know why that would be odd at all. No matter which DCA camp you were in, this reinvestment is nothing but good stuff. If you thought DCA sucked and was a money drain, then all these changes are terrific. But if you thought DCA was OK as a 2nd gate, the changes are still terrific. Any way you slice it, This is all going to be great for the DCA guests of the future. Anyone still complaining about the direction of DCA is simply going to complain no matter what.