Originally Posted By berol It'd still be difficult to see who is consistently giving great service. People aren't prone to find a manager to lelt them know about average or excellent service, just poor. See who gets the most tips and you have your promotee. Judging from what people are saying about restaurants w/o tips, service is better where tipping is done.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle We don't have supervisors here (where there are no tips), but I know that's probably different since no restaurants here have tips. My friend was promoted after being a waitress for 3 months because of her good service, so I guess they have ways of knowing (having never worked in the service industry, I can't comment TOO much on that). When I say we don't "have" tips, you can of course leave them and most restaurants have tip jars on the counter (the fancier ones have a place to write a tip on the bill) but they're not expected. I don't REALLY know if I'd say the service is better under a tipping system. Earlier in the thread, I did comment that it's much easier to get a refill on your water and soft drink in the US than here in Australia. All in all, though, that's the only real difference I've noticed between service here and there; the waitstaff seem just as friendly and attentive here for the MOST part. I haven't noticed the overwhelming difference in service that a few other people talked about, and I don't know if not having to catch my server's eye for a drink refill really equates to a 15-20% tip. Just my 2 cents (so to speak!!)
Originally Posted By DVC_dad what is the reasoning behind many restaurants suddenly including the tip for partys over say 6 or 8 ?
Originally Posted By seanyoda I don't usually have enough luggage to require a bellhop, but when I do, I tip $1-$2 per bag depending upon the circumstances. As for housekeeping, I will leave $2-$5 each night depending upon the circumstances. If I leave the room particularly messy, I'll leave more. I've always understood bellhops and maids to be tipped positions.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <Does anyone tip housekeeping, why or why bot and how much?> I don't. And this may sound stupid, but I don't know where to leave it. Plus, I never see them. Help!
Originally Posted By seanyoda If I can, I place the tip in an envelope labeled "for housekeeping -- Thanks" and then leave the envelope on the nightstand in plain sight. If I don't have an envelope, I'll write "for housekeeping -- Thanks" on a slip of paper folded in half and place the tip inside the fold.
Originally Posted By gottaluvdavillains <what is the reasoning behind many restaurants suddenly including the tip for partys over say 6 or 8 > My sister waited tables and she said her restaurant included the tip on large parties because the party takes more tables in the waitress/er's area and they server less groups so they don't have as big of a table turnover...Some restaurants (claim jumpers being one) limit how long large parties can be there also. However I do notice the same restaurants that add tips when we are there as a group of adults doesn't do the same when I am there with just my family (6 of us)...
Originally Posted By quincytoo >>>>Does anyone tip housekeeping, why or why bot and how much?<<<< $2-$5 each night. When we are in Mexico at AI (they say that tips are included but these people makes nearly nothing) we take down about $30.00 US ones and fives (until we can hit a ATM for pesos). We tip transfer drivers, bellmen, housekeepers, buffet staff, waiters, bartenders, it is easy to go through 1500 pesos in a week of tipping. Here is Canada my husband and I tip 20% unless service is bad then we tip 15%. It is mind boggling to hear how low of a hourly wage the servers earn in the US. Until 1997 my husband worked as night time waiter in a fine dining room, I believe most tipped around 20% and he paid out 4% nightly to the kitchen staff. His hourly wage was $13.00 a hour plus tips plus the Fairmont (his employer) paid excellant medical and dental, all statutory holidays, overtime, etc etc. PLUS we got one week free stay at any Fairmont hotel in the world. One New Years eve he came home with a thousand dollar tip!! When we left Whistler he started in another line of work our children were growing up and working nightly meant he didn't get to see them as often as we liked.
Originally Posted By KCCHIEF I always tip housekeepers....on the last day there...I try to keep notice if it has been the same one every day....if we have the room for 5 nights..I usually leave 10 dollars..
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Good advice there...I'll have to make sure I do that next time.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"So if a customer skips without paying, she not only loses the tip, but she has to pay for the meal as well."<<< This is true of most restaurants. I don't think that it is fair. My DD had a family celebrate a birthday and my daughter went all out for them. When she went to present them with the bill, Mom and kids had already left and Dad said that he left his wallet in the car and would be right back. So-no tip AND she was responsible for their meals.
Originally Posted By seanyoda << I always tip housekeepers....on the last day there...I try to keep notice if it has been the same one every day >> I'll leave a tip each morning because I have found that, more often than not (and especially at the WDW resorts), housekeeping staff rotates.
Originally Posted By quincytoo ^^^^I always tip each each morning for that same reason!! DH had that happen to him once or twice!! They called it dine and dash!and yes the servers are dinked for it. JERKS!!
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 dlkozy---that was so dirty of her customers. How does a restaurant expect a waitperson to be at their best when they have to be watching to make sure noone is skipping out the door? The manager should have accompanied that man to his car. What a jerk!! At least at WDW housekeeping leaves a card with thier name on it, that's where I leave my tip. Daily, so the right one gets it. I'm still mad about those birthday people, I hope they got 2 flat tires on the way home, far from home.
Originally Posted By Elderp ^ Hope they are filling police reports on those people. Not that there is a high likelyhood that they will be caught but it should be done. Also, is it legal to charge a server for that?
Originally Posted By quincytoo ^^^I am not sure... OH! DH says here in Canada it is illegal to charge the servers for the D&D meal, some bad restaurants might try to do so but any good self respecting waiter knowing this would refuse to pay it and rightly so!!!! Every restaurant he ever worked at had a Dine and Dash fund...D&D Fund, every shift everybody on staff puts in $.50 this covers a D&D. I just think scum like this shoud be caught and charged with stealing because that is what it is....like shoplighting!! DLkozy, I felt bad reading about what the horrible family did to you daughter!! Lowlifes!!
Originally Posted By tiki tiki tiki tiki Where I´m at it´s also the norm for a server to have to pay for a fleeing-non-paying customer. Luckily we´re able to scope these type of customers out immediately and keep an eye on them at all times. But in all my years of managing, I have never made any of my servers pay for a fleeing customer. I´ve always worked at really busy restaurants/bars and I know how hard it is to serve, take orders, clean, run back and forth 100 times, AND keep an eye on everyone. I´ve simply had "the chat" with the server and left it at that. But I don´t make them pay up because of our low wages and non existing tips. I´d feel terrible taking away part of the little money they make and knowing that they do a good job.
Originally Posted By dlkozy >>>"I'm still mad about those birthday people, I hope they got 2 flat tires on the way home, far from home."<<< >>>"DLkozy, I felt bad reading about what the horrible family did to you daughter!! Lowlifes!!"<<< I will let my DD know that others are upset about what happened to her too. :0)
