Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Well having just returned from Disneyland, with the exception of missing something on the Peoplemover track, it felt pretty busy and good to me. While I lament the tooning of the lands, I do still really like TL in DL, WDW and Discoveryland at DLP. Now if DL could return something to the Peoplemover track, I would be very happy.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Now if DL could return something to the Peoplemover track, I would be very happy.>> Yes, I think that is the one thing that would most improve Tomorrowland.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Oh, and am I the only one who thinks DCA is going to be worse rather than fixed? Personally, I would have loved them to extend the DCA original ethos to fill in more detail, instead of going for the tooning. Oooops, sorry, now I am sounding like a broken record.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Now that Disney is fixing DCA folks start trashing Tomorrowland. They always have to be dissatisfied with something.<< That's an easy way to dismiss what I think are some legitimate points of view about the toonification of Tomorrowland. It is what it is. I know full well I can't change it, and that I'm probably out of step with the current Disneyland guest, who comes there not for some grand vision of the future but just as a place to take the kids. I'm not going to let it ruin my day there. But I discuss it here, because that's what the boards are for. Walt Disney had a different thing in mind than the route they've gone. It's sad that they didn't really attempt to live up to the challenge. It isn't like Disney is some poor little struggling company.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Then again, if Walt was still in charge, it might still be a poor stuggling company. His ideas were huge, and it's not something that the company could have done alone, judging by how much he relied on sponsorship. Who knows if EPCOT would have been a viable idea? We'll never know. Anyway, I still believe it would take a bold and passionate CEO and a similarly bold and passionate Imagineer to turn TL back into what its original mission was. I don't think think that combination is in place at the moment.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Agreed. I was watching my Treasures last night, the Wonderful World of Color episode called Disneyland goes to the World Fair. It was great. I used to be facinated by world fairs and Expos (and indeed I still am), but they were from an age where TV and internet did not exist. Today, we hear of new ideas and see new products immediately. Also, except in Dubai, or by companies such as Apple or Toyota/Honda, there is very little major investment. What would be cool though is a Horizon's type attraction that shows futurism; a fully fleshed our version of Mission Space; a themed table service restaurant that serves the food of tomorrow - served in a hydroponics greenhouse; hover cars to transport you around the land. The issue is, most of these ideas would probably not fly with the frequent visitors of DL.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Last week I was watching One Man's Dream, the TV special starring Michael Landon. Thinking back about EPCOT Center, it's a wonder they built the place at all. I sure am glad they did though!
Originally Posted By bean 141 NEW! davewasbaloo Mon 3/17/2008 7:<<Now if DL could return something to the Peoplemover track, I would be very happy.>> Soon very soon!!
Originally Posted By jonvn This is what TL needs: 1) Put the astro jets back on top of the platform where it belongs. 2) Put something on the people mover track, or remove the track. 3) Remove starcade, put an Innoventions type display in that area, or put some other science based thing. 4) Remove the COP building, put in a sphere building similar to Spaceship earth, and put in something fast and fun there that is in theme. That fixes it.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo That's great news bean. Thanks. I was thinking, though some might find it boring, how about an attraction where you travel through the future of the environment. Like the new SSE redo, you answer a few questions, based on the answers: you weave through a lovely green, healthy vision of the future if you put in the right answers to help carbon neutrality; if you answer wrong, then you end up in an ice age, a smoggy dirty city and floating where California used to be. Using interactive screens, AA's, and the Pooh Hunny Hunt technology with key pathway choices, this could be a very cool and edutaining attraction. Finish up in the restaurant area I talked about. Mix in some interactive exibits about sustainability, it could be really cool.
Originally Posted By Cindermomster As bean said: "Soon very soon!!" I have read other places too that the Tomorroland fix is on the way. I think maybe since the focus is on DCA that no one expects anything in Tomorrowland. So the big secret is still under wraps. Some may have even given up hope on a change. I think just maybe that Tomorrowland will be fixed at the same time as DCA. But there are secrets there that no one is talking about yet. Watch and wait. I have faith in what bean says. Soon . . . very soon.
Originally Posted By PetesDraggin jonvn said "This is what TL needs: 1) Put the astro jets back on top of the platform where it belongs. 2) Put something on the people mover track, or remove the track. 3) Remove starcade, put an Innoventions type display in that area, or put some other science based thing. 4) Remove the COP building, put in a sphere building similar to Spaceship earth, and put in something fast and fun there that is in theme. That fixes it." I agree with this 100%
Originally Posted By PetesDraggin davewasbaloo said "Using interactive screens, AA's, and the Pooh Hunny Hunt technology with key pathway choices, this could be a very cool and edutaining attraction." That's a great idea. I like how you take existing technology and create a unique, new ride with it.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<That's a great idea. I like how you take existing technology and create a unique, new ride with it.>> That's what Bob Gurr did. He created all those cool rides using parts from a McMaster catalog!
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "That fixes it." Well, not exactly. You still have Autopia an attraction completely lacking any kind of futuristic twist, and two attractions that are way past their expiration dates: HISTA and Star Tours. Finally, there is Buzz (which I know isn't going anywhere) a ride that has no place being in TL in the first place.
Originally Posted By jonvn Those things aren't such a big deal. Autopia is basically fine as it is. It's still very popular. Star Tours could use a makeover, but that can wait. The worst on your list is HISTA, and it is true, that should go, as it is anti-science and anti-tech. But it's not really KILLING the area. I'd put those things in a second tier. But still HISTA at the top of that, certainly. Buzz is popular. What are you going to do? When it finally does get replaced, it should be with something that isn't some brain dead piece of crap like Buzz is.
Originally Posted By bean tomorrowlaand is on track to get three new additions by 2010. something on those empty tracks. a replacement for HISTA and a revamped star tours plus some cosmetic changes thruout the land. oh and JOVN you might get your wish. the old starcade might be on its way out
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That's great news. I think these are all things taht we've wished for for years, but they don't get talked about much since it's just old news. I'm glad to hear that there are definate plans to get something done in TL. As for the Starcade, I almost feel like it would be better to just close it than to keep it running. It just looks really neglected and horribly out of date (both the video games and the orange tile floor) and out of place in the world of the future.
