Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Why is this even a news story? >>> Because Jesse Jackson has called for a boycott of the new DVD set because of Richards' recent on-stage outburst.
Originally Posted By DlandJB I thought that was silly. Richards is making most of his money off of reruns anyway. Why penalize others who had nothing to do with his rant?
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >the black members were trying to make the white members understand that it's okay for *them* (black people) to use the word, because of the culture of it among themselves.<< See, I just personally don't understand that. I'm overweight, so I can go up to another overweight person and call them "fatty" or "heifer"? I never would, in fact I would never even describe myself in such a way, let alone someone else. If for some reason I did go up to someone and call them fat they wouldn't just reply with "haha, it's okay for you to call me that because you are too". So I don't personally see why it's not offensive for black people (or gay people) to use those terms about themselves or others. I'm not saying Michael Richards should have said it, of course - I'm just saying others shouldn't be able to either. >>The reason for this I believe is the N word does not carry the same weight here in Australia as it does in America<< Deb, I agree but I think it might be because the N word, in general, isn't used very often here. I don't think it's more accepted when it is used, it's not just really an 'insult of choice' to most Australians. I think more Australians would be inclined to use the 'C word' (well, not THAT C-word) if they wanted to make a racial slur.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I'm overweight, so I can go up to another overweight person and call them "fatty" or "heifer"?" The thing is that no matter how you slice it, black people saying derogatory things about each other using vicious racial slurs does not help them, their situation, or the view they have of themselves or others have of them. "the 'C word' (well, not THAT C-word)" God, this is childish.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Jonvn, I don't want my entire post to be removed on the basis of the fact that it includes a derogatory term that's against community standards. Sorry if you find that childish.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Sorry if you find that childish. " You misunderstand me. What you said is not childish. Society is childish in that we have to say things like "N word" when we all KNOW what we are talking about, and by not typing the string of letters on the keyboard, are somehow not saying the thing, when we are in fact saying that exact thing and everyone knows it. It's childish.
Originally Posted By JohnS1 "Society is childish in that we have to say things like "N word" when we all KNOW what we are talking about" Hey - that's just about what I said nearly a gazillion posts ago! (-:
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Hi JohnS1, WorldDisney here . Do you think I can have your email address. I want to ask you something off the boards. It's writing-related . I want to ask your input about something. If you like, you can just write me back here: Cooper_Felix@hotmail.com I would appreciate it if you can write me back. Thanks
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Sorry, nearly put my own thread off-topic lol. Yeah, I would say its SILLY to boycott an entire tv show dvd sales because of one person. But, it's Jesse Jackson, dude got to stay in the spotlight you know . As for Richards, sorry, STILL not buying all these apologies. Like I said, I know he feels bad for what he said, but when he keeps saying he isn't really racist and doing the 'meet the Black leaders' PR that so many people seem to do these days. Didn't Vincete Fox, the former President of MEXICO meet these people because he said something offensive this year?? I guess its good to save your career and all, but still not buying it, sorry.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The whole apology tour that celebrities/politicians embark on is predictable, isn't it? Step 1: Get caught with hand in cookie jar. Or in sexual situation. Or making offensive remarks. Or scoring illegal quantities of prescription drugs. Step 2a: Bold declaration that no way did you do what your accusers say. [or, if video evidence exists...] Step 2b: Shaky apology of sorts at which time you declare yourself addicted, a victim, misunderstood. Announce that you will be: a. taking time off for treatment b. conferring with lawyers and cannot speak about the 'pending legal issues' c. resigning, spending time with family Step 3: Meet with well known religious leader, reaffirm apology to the press, announce that you will become an activist in the war against offensive remarks, drug/alcohol/sexual addiction. Step 4: Interview with Barbara Walters or Larry King. Step 5: Write book/TV movie script about incident. Take character parts and/or lower political office and/or appearance as political pundit on news programs to begin making career comeback.
Originally Posted By DouglasDubh Richards should have just said it was a botched joke. That worked for Sen Kerry.
Originally Posted By DlandJB I guess its good to save your career and all, but still not buying it, sorry.>>> So what would satisfy you that he was truly sorry? Or is it just something that takes time to heal?
Originally Posted By DAR <<You misunderstand me. What you said is not childish. Society is childish in that we have to say things like "N word" when we all KNOW what we are talking about, and by not typing the string of letters on the keyboard, are somehow not saying the thing, when we are in fact saying that exact thing and everyone knows it. It's childish.>> It is childish but it wouldn't comply with the Community Standards here.
Originally Posted By jonvn The standards here reflect some PC ideas that are going on in the world around us. That somehow, if you say N WORD, that makes it ok, but if you say the real word, it's bad. When you say N WORD (a holdover from the OJ trial, I believe), everyone knows what that is. It's not protecting anyone. It's not hiding the use of the word. It's the word, just said with a different pronounciation. It's not the fault of this site, but it is utterly ridiculous that we do these things.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I've seen the no-holds-barred sites that let people swear with abandon. Quickly they turn into a bunch of people acting like three year olds that have learned to say 'poo-poo' for the first time. I like this site better.
Originally Posted By jonvn Yeah, well, there is that. It's probalby just easier this way for this site. But, in general in society, we censor stuff that's just weird. On South Park, they said THE S WORD like 100 times on an episode once, and you know? Society did NOT collapse. It's just dumb.
Originally Posted By DAR ^^^ Truthfully I'm glad this site has these standards. It actually keeps me in line(that and the workplace). See I kind of have a dirty mouth.
