Tookie Williams denied clemency

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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    >>Why are you always trying so hard to provoke? I'm in favor of the death penalty, but I don't think that people who disagree with me because they have a consistent pro-life stance or just a different view are "wing nuts" because they disagree with the death penalty. Turn it down a notch or two.<<

    Some people think that being rude, inconsiderate and hateful are the right way of behaving in a civilized society. They've been watching Ann Coulter too much.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    I think that's true. That's why I said in one of the threads asking what the world today needs most: Manners. I need to practice what I preach more, to be sure, but geeze.
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    That might explain why you misconstrued my point and deemed it provocation.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Terms like wing nut? I misconstrued that? Gad, this is boring. Whatever.
     
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    Originally Posted By gadzuux

    >> Gad, this is boring. Whatever. <<

    I'll try to be more scintillating in the future - with manners of course.
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    Anyone that could advocate for a piece of trash like Davis (or Dahmer) is in my estimation (kindly put and only meant in the most endearing way, over a bed of classical music) a “wing nutâ€.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    Nobody is advocating for Dahmer or Davis or Williams. They are advocating against capital punishment in general.
     
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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    I don't think Ms. Coulter really thinks that the distinction matters.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    Coulter won't make that distinction because her schtick is being outraged about stuff, and it's easier to be outraged by lying about what your opposition is saying.
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    Maybe so, but I think the problem is when your stance has the face of a monster (Tookie, Davis, Dahmer et al, I could have used ilk but I know how you guy’s love Latin.) you stand a good chance of gleaning little or no sympathy for your cause.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    But our stance doesn't have the face of a monster. It has the face of our faith and morals. You might just focus on the person facing execution, but I'm looking at what my faith and my God has told me.
     
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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    Amen, Tom.
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    As far as your faith is concerned that’s great for you and I know you’re not advocating for religion in matters of the state. When you post in a topic that has the man’s name on it and say you are against the death penalty it may appear to some that you don’t feel that person should be executed. I on the other hand had a look at the crime scene photo’s, clemency for Tookie denied case closed.
     
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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    Well, when you continually lie about the point of view of your opposition and get called on it, your sudden change of heart and attempt to be conciliatory falls flat on its face.

    NEXT!
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    cmpaley,

    You’re reading too much into it
     
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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    And you're not reading enough of what the other side has to say.

    The things is, I absolutely UNDERSTAND your point of view because I know where it comes from. I used to think like you on this issue. I know the anger, hatred, loathing, contempt and disdain you hold for non-Republicans, so I understand why you argue the way you do.

    While I don't respect it, I do understand it.
     
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    Originally Posted By patrickegan

    I did but I’m still not feeling your faith. I don’t harbor most of those emotions about political parties or the death penalty but I do believe you have more distain for party affiliation then I.
     
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    Originally Posted By cmpaley

    Well, whether or not I make heaven and my place in it won't be determined by whether or not you "feel my faith," now does it?

    I know what I believe and why. I can explain it to those who have ears to hear.

    What I see is that anyone who doesn't bow down to anything and everything the RNC declares to be the truth is called a "neo-com" by you. Do I find the Democrat postion of "pro-choice" and anti-death penalty to be a bit hypocritical? Absofraggenlutely! I also find the Republican position of pro-death penalty and alleged pro-life position to be hypocritical. See how that works?
     
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    Originally Posted By Beaumandy

    << I also find the Republican position of pro-death penalty and alleged pro-life position to be hypocritical. See how that works?>>

    I don't see this cmpaley. People who don't support the death penalty have more blood on their hands than any person who every supported the death penalty.
     
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    Originally Posted By TomSawyer

    >>People who don't support the death penalty have more blood on their hands than any person who every supported the death penalty<<

    That's only because you pull a Pilate and wash your hands of their deaths.
     

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