Originally Posted By patrickegan He had choices and could have done more to show his remorse but he chose not too. The choices he made sealed his fate.
Originally Posted By patrickegan That’s true, probably why most people chose social behavior over anti-social behavior.
Originally Posted By patrickegan Well that is certainly a debatable point but there’s no room in here as this is the WE section of the Laughing place.com!
Originally Posted By barboy FaMulan, Kartoon and Pat, with a straight face are you really serious that if Williams would have admitted to the murders and he was truly remorseful then he should have been saved from public homicide? No way. If the man would have come clean about the slayings then that would only make it easier to want him dead.... right? I get the feeling that you are using the lack of remorse as sloppy justifcation. The way I see it repentance should not dictate whether one lives or dies at the hands of the state. If one truly/absolutely/100% wasted four innocent people then he should be put down.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>FaMulan, Kartoon and Pat, with a straight face are you really serious that if Williams would have admitted to the murders and he was truly remorseful then he should have been saved from public homicide?<< I don't think I ever said that. In fact, I question his whole remorse about gang life based on the fact that he wasn't cooperative with police by giving them information to make further arrests and infiltrate these gangs more. I also think that Williams was responsible, directly and indirectly, for thousands of homocides in the form of gang violence because of the gang he co-founded. That said, however, I'm not especially happy or giddy that he was executed in the sense that I would celebrate his death in any way. I really can understand why people would be opposed to the death penalty. I may argue the point, but I'm not going to mock them for it. I can just agree to disagree on this one.
Originally Posted By barboy By the way there is a very compelling and sobering expose by David Dow: Executed on a Technicality, Leathal Injustice on America's Death Row. I fully recommend it to all those who favor capital punishment. Dow, a leading death row lawyer in Texas, introduces us to some of the injustices of federal death row appeals as well as the unfairness found at the state level. He profiles some of his very unlucky("hit by lightening" as he saw it) clients who were victimized by the criminal injustice system.
Originally Posted By FaMulan FaMulan, Kartoon and Pat, with a straight face are you really serious that if Williams would have admitted to the murders and he was truly remorseful then he should have been saved from public homicide?<< I he had been truly remorseful, assisted the authorities in destroying the cancer on our society he created, and not been an instigator and party to jailhouse violence then his so-called 'conversion to a hero' would have been more than a sham and yes, clemency should have been considered.
Originally Posted By patrickegan I agree with the others and find no pleasure in the morass of evil. Some acts are so terrible that there is no coming back into the fold of society and I don’t think he was alone in refuting the reality of his crimes.
