Originally Posted By mickey_ring <<Oh, and how many other drownings were there on the same day all over the U.S.? How much press did they get?>> Very true, Phantom. At least once every summer here in NJ, something bad happens along the shore. It gets all over the local news, but people still go to NJ beaches. And pay for a beach pass, too.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 You are right Mickey Ring. A death won't stop people from going. I live 20 minutes from the beach in NJ and won't step foot on the beach. I would rather go south than go to our beaches here.
Originally Posted By NYthrillseeker People die every day and in every way. Although it is upsetting to hear about this, it doesn't mean for any reason that WDW should close all it's pools as one LP'er suggested. People have apparently died from Mission Space and GTMR in DL. I guess that means WDW should just do away with all their rides as well. OK, of course I'm being sarcastic here. It is very sad, but you should never go swimming alone, even if you can swim.
Originally Posted By Labuda "it doesn't mean for any reason that WDW should close all it's pools as one LP'er suggested. " He was being sarcastic. "eople have apparently died from Mission Space and GTMR in DL." Disney has not bee found to be at fault for either death o or shortly after riding Mission: Space. And the ride ame is Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, ot G(whatever) Thunder Mountain Railroad.
Originally Posted By cape cod joe tdl-I meant WDW when I said the world> my nickname for WDW. It is the happiest and safest PUBLIC place on the planet. I hate to see them buckle to placate the ignorant, headline seeking press.
Originally Posted By pixiedust1 <<Wow, that really sucks. I wonder if she knew how to swim? Is the pool at CS deep? >> Confirmed... Disney will be filling all their resort pools with concrete to make the depth of each pool two feet deep only.. there will also be a height requirement in force... min 36 inches.. PLUS... It will be mandatory to wear some sort of breathing device... There will be one life guard per guest to ensure safety for each and every person...
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>There will be one life guard per guest to ensure safety for each and every person... << Well, if the pool is always open, then I think that its reasonable that there be a lifeguard at all times. This isn't the Motel 6 after all.
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun If I am remembering correctly - which is already questionable - I think that the all stars pools were open in July without a lifeguard. There were signs that said no life guard on duty.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I agree with fkurucz. If the pools are open there should be a lifeguard...period.
Originally Posted By piratedeb413 This is tragic, yes, but how can anyone even suggest closing all the resort pools? That's absurd!! Too bad Disney is catching so much flak. Before even thinking of closing the resorts, don't you think the water parks seem more dangerous than the pools? Anyway, this was one unfortunate incident. We don't know about the woman's health, etc. Let's not jump so soon to conclusions that the pools should be closed down. That would be totally the wrong thing to do.
Originally Posted By imadisneygal I understand the idea behind lifeguards, but if one isn't there and it's posted that one isn't there, it's not that big of a deal. I would be very surprised that this incident didn't occur because of a stroke or heart attack that killed the Guest and she just happened to be in the pool at the same time. The first rule of going in the water isn't "make sure there's a lifeguard" it's "swim with a buddy." It's unusual for a grown woman to be face down, dead in a pool without there being a cause other than simple drowning. If she had a stroke or a massive heart attack then there is nothing any lifeguard could have done even with the AED there. As a frequent Guest to WDW I am not bothered by no lifeguard on duty. This may be due to the fact that I was trained as a lifeguard although my certification lapsed about 5 years ago. Maybe I'm more comfortable around water than some people? Maybe I'm alone in this opinion? I'm willing to accept being alone...
Originally Posted By -em ^ agreed I would say that 90% of the pools we swam in at hotels growing up never had a lifeguard (and the rule was NEVER swim alone) I work at a hotel that has an indoor pool and no lifeguard (yes the signs are posted) and we've never had an issue. As long as signs are posted- I think its fine. -em
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Disney has guards at their resort parking lots...they should have guards at all times the pools are open. There is no excuse for them not to have guards. I am a big Disney fan and am often accused of being a Disney apologist but I just can't think of any good reason to have a resort pool open but no guards.
Originally Posted By -em So since the Marriott down the street has a security guard watching the parking lot- they are required to have a lifeguard on duty at all times? -em
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<The first rule of going in the water isn't "make sure there's a lifeguard" it's "swim with a buddy.">> I admit I have never thought about the consequences of being in the water alone, and I am sure it didn't occur to this woman either.
Originally Posted By disneyfreaksk I'm wondering what her blood/alcohol level was. We have many accidents here in AZ with people drinking and being in the heat.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<This is tragic, yes, but how can anyone even suggest closing all the resort pools? That's absurd!! >> The internet continues to amaze me. I would have thought EVERYONE would be able to tell that my post was sarcastic. I guess not. <<I've long felt that Disney should shut down all the pools at WDW. There are a large number of people who have great difficulty breathing underwater and the prevalence of pools at the Disney resorts put these people at GREAT RISK!!>>
Originally Posted By wahooskipper What I am saying is that if Disney places such great importance on the security of their resorts that they choose to put security guards at resort parking entrances I don't see why they don't use the same duty of care on their swimming pools. Listen, kids are prevalent at WDW and not all of them have the brightest parents. Water is one of the most common forms of childhood death in Florida. Disney has the financial ability to staff the pools adequately. There is no reason for them not to. We won't know the cause of death for some time but there is certainly a possibility that had a lifeguard (is it confirmed that the pool was open but there was no lifeguard?) been on duty this woman may have lived.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss But aren't all the pools at Disney resorts unfenced? Even if they are "closed" anyone can still get into them.
