Originally Posted By wahooskipper Interesting point. Made all the more interesting, I might add, by the fact that there is a law in Florida that if you own a home that has a pool it must be fenced in. Listen, I'm not trying to set up a lawsuit against Disney here. But, it just seems a reasonable request that Disney have lifeguards at all the pools and take reasonable steps to keep folks out of the water when the pools are closed or not being guarded.
Originally Posted By sun-n-fun ^^^HMMM, I can see your point. I don't think that the larger pool at all star movies is fenced in but I think the Mighty Duck pool iss. (Again my memory is horrid, so maybe that's totally wrong.)
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I understand completely where you are coming from. I don't think it's unreasonable for Disney to provide 'round the clock lifeguarding... but I also don't think it's unreasonable that they don't.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad <<<I've long felt that Disney should shut down all the pools at WDW.>>> RoadTrip, You CAN'T be serious?!!!!
Originally Posted By DVC_dad Normal everyday common sense does not prevail with a lot of people. You never, hunt, ski, swim, hike, camp, or play post office alone!
Originally Posted By wahooskipper DVC dad...since when have you seen common sense displayed by WDW guests? You need only seem multiple examples of a lack of common sense by sitting by the side of any major WDW road. If they can keep food locations staffed and operating 24 hours then they should keep pools staffed 24 hours. The fact that they don't make money shouldn't be reason not too.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Again, I see your point, but one guest death in 35 years is hardly an alarm for action. Would it have saved this woman's life. Maybe. But there are dozens of things Disney could probably do to prevent accidents, all conceivably things they should do but don't. Where to draw the line is the question.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I am not alarmed by this one case. I can't believe that hasn't been standard operating procedure all along. And, that excuse never flies with me. It is the same thing people say when railroad crossing gates are not installed. Do you really need a death in order to know it should have been done already?
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys >The internet continues to amaze me. I would have thought EVERYONE would be able to tell that my post was sarcastic. I guess not.< Exactly the reason why I responded in Post #6. >Sarcasm duly noted!)<
Originally Posted By trekkeruss Why shouldn't you believe it? It's been SOP in the hotel industry to not have a lifeguard on-duty 24/7 since forever, is it not? Neither are there crossbucks at all railroad crossings, and even when there are, people still get killed by driving around them (not that I am implying this woman did anything illegal or stupid.) I am not trying to make excuses for them not to have lifeguards, but you can still have deaths no matter what safety net is in place. Nothing is guaranteed in life.
Originally Posted By DVC_dad I have given this a little thought and I think I know the main reason why the pools are NOT life guarded 24/7, and I agree with it. If they were, people would leave their kids at the pool 24/7. I have seen SOOOOOO many parents think, "lifeguard means free baby sitter!" Shame on you parents who think like this. You don't have your kids best interests in mind.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss ^^That's a very insightful reason, Dad, and I agree with you. Lifeguards on duty 24/7 might be an invitation for an even worse situation.
Originally Posted By Coachbagfanatic1 It is truly a sad situation. There are a lot of comments being made but don't you think that we should wait and see what the autopsy report states first before we pass judgment? JMO. We never go in the pool alone as you never know what can happen. Besides, I can't swim anyway and I would need my hubby's help. LOL I agree DVC, There are a lot of parents that leave their kids at the pool while they go other places. I will never do that and the thought has never crossed my mind. I am my son's sitter and no one else. And besides, we like to be together as a family.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper DVCdad...you are probably right. I have a plan. It is the world according to wahoo: Every person born is sterilized at birth. At the age of 18 each person is required to take a test of one's common sense to see if they meet the basic requirements of a parent. Additionally, they must show they can afford to raise the child. If you pass...the sterilization is reversed and you are free to procreate. If you fail...you buy a goldfish.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<If you pass...the sterilization is reversed and you are free to procreate. If you fail...you buy a goldfish.>> It would be a shame though to have kept the world from knowing Jenna and Barbara.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m ^^It's pretty sad to say that I somewhat agree with you wahoo. There are way too many people with children that just don't have the kids' best interest at heart. People on drugs, people who keep getting pregnant to stay on welfare, people who abuse kids, etc etc.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper I'm not sure Chelsea would have made into the world either. Bill was very smart but he lacked some common sense.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Hey, we require a test to drive a car and we require a license to fish. Why should parenting be any different?
Originally Posted By NYthrillseeker Labuda - I did not take what the LPer said as sarcastic, but now I see it probably was. I also never said that the death of the person riding Mission Space was Disney's fault. As for the Big Thunder Mountain Railroad (BTMR), it was a typo, forgive me.
