Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Perhaps, they should drain the pools at night, cover them and place armed guards around them? Splish ... splash ...
Originally Posted By DVC_dad OOOPs! I meant that as a response to post # 100... I think. <--- stomps off to sulk.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m <<Do the pools at Ft Wilderness, Contemporary, the Poly, and Wilderness Lodge have fences around them? Or does the fact that you have to go through the MK toll plaza to get there mean that you don't have to fence them in?>> I think the fact that each resort has a guard shack is what doesn't require them to fence the pools in.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I think we are getting off-track with talking about a fence. Even if there was a fence around the pool, if the pool is open and there is no lifeguard, this woman would still have died. We don't know if she drown or had a medical condition that prevented her from exiting the pool, but apparently no one witnessed her distress. That is a more important in my mind, that she was alone.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m Ahh, the topic just took a bit of a twist. I personally think this was just a tragic accident, and I'm not looking to blame WDW in any way. I would hate it if WDW had crappy pool hours like some hotels I've stayed at do. As I've said, we are night owls and love swimming at night. Many people go to bed early to hit the parks early, and it's nice having a pool mostly to yourself and maybe a dozen other people. When we stayed at Fort Wilderness in '01 we went swimming late, then Tyler and I would go back to the cabin, and Dave and my brother Jay would go to the arcade. They didn't usually get back to the cabin until 2.
Originally Posted By demderedoseguys One question that I have: How many children have ever drowned in a WDW pool?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 ^^I have a better question: how many children and adults are drowning right now across the USA because they can't swim. This should be a mandatory life skill taught in schools, BTW.
Originally Posted By smeeeko ^^ not to annoy anyone but I don't know of any hotel pools that I've swam at (not just disney btw) that have 'fences' around the pool. It's a hotel pool and not all hotel pools have lifeguards.. they are required to post that I would think.. "swim at your own risk" and you certainly shouldn't be letting your kids (or yourself for that matter) in a pool if you or your kids can't swim. The world isn't your babysitter and I agree that swimming should be a required lifeskill, however not all schools have the luxury of a pool (or one that is full of water noless) like the school and neighborhood I grew up in. If not though most neighborhoods *do* have a Y or something with summer programs that you can enroll yourself and your kids in. Assuming there is a lifeguard at most pools there is only one and they can't be babysitting your child let alone 50 kids swimming and splashing in the neighborhood pool. I don't presume to know the policy at Disney but I think they have plenty of warnings and stuff posted to let you know what is expected of you at the resort you are staying. If you have questions there is ALWAYS a CM there to assist you or point you to someone who can. BTW: I was checking our latest resort thingy.. from Pop Century where we stayed in December 2005, they clearly state that the pool hours are 7am-12midnight but the lifeguard is on duty from 7am til 10pm and that 'quiet time' is appreciated after 10pm.. Have questions? They have a number there to call too. This is just the one resort. I know the quiet pools at Port Orleans do not have a lifeguard on duty at all. They have the same posted info about swimming at your own risk, etc.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Perhaps, they should drain the pools at night, cover them and place armed guards around them? Splish ... splash ...< just put up a sign that says " Pooh's Playground this way---> " that'd be enough to keep me away
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 Give the Spirit a night with a stop at Home Depot first and that alleged playground would disappear like a vampire at daylight's first kiss.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Nope in cyber life -- one of the posters I have the most respect for on these boards....even in disagreement always had fun. -- a welcome addition back for as long as he decides to stick around..
Originally Posted By mrichmondj During my recent visit to the Wilderness Lodge, there were always two lifeguards on duty during peak swimming hours and always while the poolside bar was open. They were very aggressive -- the most vigilant lifeguards I have ever observed. What was sickening was the number of adults (and parents) who blatantly ignored or sneered at the lifeguards when they were given warnings for their own behavior or the behavior of their children (only one person on the slide, stop running, no drinks in the pool, etc.) It was amazing to see the number of people who disregarded the authority of the lifeguards.
Originally Posted By t1lersm0m When we stayed at AKL, I was amazed at how many times the lifeguards had to keep yelling at the same kids. We constantly watched Tyler and swam with him. They always tell you to come down the slide feet first, but when Tyler would make the second turn he woudl get flipped around. I always scooped him up and told him that he had to figure out a way to come down feet first the whole time, and the lifeguard nicely said that Tyler should keep his arms further away from his body on the slide and that would prevent him from spinning around. But there were many kids that were told dozens of times to come down feet first, and their parents were never there to back up the lifeguard and help their kids understand. My child is my #1 priority. I could never just sit on a patio chair laying in the sun while Tyler swam unsupervised. As DVC Dad pointed out, many parents use the lifeguards as babysitters, and that's not right.