Originally Posted By arstogas >>>And I'm not certain. Notice the word "might" in the lower paragraph.<<< Fair enough... but your first paragraph was rather open and shut on the issue.
Originally Posted By arstogas >>>Fair enough... but your first paragraph was rather open and shut on the issue. <<< >>>Sorry? <<< Here ya go...: >>>if our ToT turns out to be popular, it will turn on the creative lightbulbs of Disney suits to make them say "Hey! Quality attractions sell more than cheap ones!".<<< Just meant that you wrote a fairly declarative statement on its own in the first paragraph. Not qualified at all, really. No big deal, though. You may not have realized you wrote it like that.
Originally Posted By DisneyMickey I agree with leemac. Tower of Terror, I think, will be a huge stomper on Magic Mountain and Knotts(who has started construction on that flip ride thing which isn't as good as Tower of Terror). All of us know that passholders will be there, and hopefully one-day ticket holders. DCA hasn't had anything big except its opening and LuminAria. But hopefully, Disney doesn't think that will complete the park.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer But remember that Disney is not in a vacuum. Universal is going to open a ride like no other (brand new, not a clone) called Revenge of the Mummy, which will get a lot of attention. SeaWorld San Diego will have Journey to Atlantis, a highly themed water ride/coaster. Both parks will be doing heavy advertising, along with Disney. Knott's has a new flat ride, Rip Tide also opening around the same time. And Knott's will also be doing a lot of advertising, along with a special SoCal price. Knott's also gets the only new ride opening in late December 2004, with their roller coaster, Silver Bullet. SFMM is the odd man out, it looks like they will have no new ride, so expect aggressive marketing and pricing from them. So there will be three highly themed rides opening in SoCal this May, and while Disney will get some of the attention, it will be sharing the spotlight!
Originally Posted By Disneyland55 When do you guys suppose soft openings will start? Early to mid April? P.s. My dad's birthday is also May 5th.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Wow Darkbeer, I haven't been to MM, Knott's and Universal in YEARS!! I'm from LA but haven't lived there in 10 years or so, so usually, when I'm home, I usually have time to only go to Disneyland. But, you know what, after complaining about for so long, I think I will take my own advice and try out some of the other parks again. I admit, I don't like the vibe in some of those places (and I'm from Compton ), so that's part of the reason I never go, but I got to check out some of the action next time I'm back--especially Knott's and Universal (last time I was in Universal, I took a date there who was in HIGH SCHOOL, almost 10 years ago, scary). Anyway, that Mummy attraction sounds to go to be true--but I said the same thing about Spider-man before I rode it .
Originally Posted By leemac Darkbeer, the issue is that the DLR does not have any real competition. It's uniqueness as Walt's Original will always draw people to the park and I can't ever really see Knotts, Universal, Sea World SD or Magic Mountain stealing customers. In Florida it is different where there is a huge pool of tourists with a limited amount of time and money and WDW needs to actively court them to the resort. DLR needs to give people a reason to return to the parks. Don't forget that ToT is the most popular attraction in Disney history according to guests in Florida. In singlehandedly ressurected MGM from the duldrums. I'm sure at least some of that effect will be felt on DCA from having the Tower.
Originally Posted By leemac ressurected=resurrected duldrums-doldrums Apologies for the terrible spelling errors.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt "But remember that Disney is not in a vacuum. Universal is going to open a ride like no other (brand new, not a clone) called Revenge of the Mummy, which will get a lot of attention. SeaWorld San Diego will have Journey to Atlantis, a highly themed water ride/coaster. Both parks will be doing heavy advertising, along with Disney." Even though DCA missed its initial mark of 7 million guests in 2001 the resort still managed to pull in something like 17 million guests. No other theme park destination on the west coast came close to those numbers. Assuming that those figures will increase significantly next year with ToT added to the repertoire, I would predict that 2004 will be milestone for DLR.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer The Amusement Business attendance numbes for 2002. 1. Magic Kingdom, 14 million, down 5% 2. Disneyland, 12.7 million, UP 3% 3. Epcot, 8.3 million, down 8% 4. MGM Studios, 8 million, down 4% 5. Animal Kingdom, 7.3 million, down 6% 6. Universal Studios Florida, 6.9 million, down 6% 7. Islands of Adventure, 6.1 million, UP 10% 8. Universal Studios Hollywood, 5.2 million, UP 10% 9. Sea World Orlando, 5 million, down 2% 10. California Adventure, 4.7 million, down 6% 11. Circus Circus' Adventuredome, .5 million, up 21% 12. Sea World San Diego, 4 million, down 2% 13. Knott's Berry Farm, 3.6 million, UP 2 % San Diego Zoo, 3.5 million, flat 17. Six Flags Magic Mountain, 3.2 million, flat San Diego Wild Animal Park, 1.7 million, flat *************** So last year, in SoCal Universal's numbers went up 10%, while DCA's numbers went down 6%... So folks are still deciding to go to the classic Disneyland park, but instead of DCA, a trip to Knott's (went up 2%) or USH.......
Originally Posted By WorldDisney But to be FAIR Darkbeer, Universal and Knott's got the numbers because they were discounting like CRAZY!! Also, Universal had that buy 1 day, get in free for the rest of the year. That's NUTS!!! It's very easy to see how it's gone up 10% when you have people coming in for free for an ENTIRE year. BUT, to be fair also, DCA probably got the numbers IT did because of all the discount tickets, 2-for-1, reduced AP passes and everything else under the sun. I wonder if they counted STRAIGHT full priced tickets, would DCA even get a full 3 million people? Very telling.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 DCA was having some pretty big discounts too. Like get in for free with the purchase of a disneyland ticket. Or if you want to be more politically correct, buy one park and go to the other for free. Knott's was the only one who didn't seem to be discounting any more than they usually do(and thats a lot) yet it had a nice rise in attendance.
Originally Posted By stevenp these are U.S only,i'd like to see the world numbers...watch tokyo kick some butt..........
Originally Posted By Elderp It appears that people are doing the two day thing but Knott's is the definative second choice and not DCA. I know I myself if I could only pick one park it wouldn't be DCA.
Originally Posted By Darkbeer Talk about spin... <a href="http://www.business-standard.com/today/story.asp?Menu=26&story=29600" target="_blank">http://www.business-standard.c om/today/story.asp?Menu=26&story=29600</a> >>Scheduled to open in the fourth quarter of 2005, the $ 3 billion Hong Kong Disneyland will have the largest Adventureland of all five Disney parks worldwide, plus Main Street, Fantasyland and Tomorrowland, and a 2,200-seat in-the-round theatre that would feature a show similar to the Festival of the Lion King show at Animal Kingdom. << Oh Boy, a theater about 10% bigger than the Hyperion, and the largest Adventureland ever built... but where is Frontierland, Critter Country, New Orleans Square, ToonTown...... But DCA has the biggest Paradise Pier area!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By Elderp cool I wonder how if they will have the Enchanted Tiki Room. I am guessing the new fantasia gardens will be part of adventureland then?
