Originally Posted By Nobody "So "almost nobody" rides it because the lines are too long? Think about that..."
Originally Posted By jmuboy I hope that once Nemo opens and the area is reworked and the new traisn arrive that the sickly monorails will FINALLY be themselves again!
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>So "almost nobody" rides it because the lines are too long? Think about that...<< Didn't Groucho Marx once make a remark like that about either a restaurant or a night club: 'Nobody goes there anymore because its alwways crowded' or something like that.
Originally Posted By fkurucz I think you're right. It was Yogi Berra. Groucho made the remark about the not joining a country club that accepted people like himself.
Originally Posted By ChurroMonster To clarify my previous statement which apparently some of you are too dense to comprehend: The lines are long because people use the Monorail as a transportation system to get to the hotels. Almost nobody goes on it just for the ride because they have to wait a long time with all those "transportation" folks in line. Get it? It has lost its appeal as an attraction. At WDW, the Monorail is a transportation system, not an attraction. At DL, it is essentially neither because it tries to be both.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I know you're trying to make sense, but you still don't. If the monorail at DL is only being used as transportation by hotel guests, then you can't say that it isn't a transportation system, because that is what it is. Has the monorail lost its appeal as an attraction? Hard to say... I don't typically go to DL and conduct surveys.
Originally Posted By iluvdisneyland ^ What Churro Monster is saying (or at least how I understand) is that the Disneyland Monorail System is neither a transportation system nor attraction, yet it claims to be both.
Originally Posted By getnby Before I moved to Southern California, I used the Monorail as transportation to and from the hotel. Now that I live closer, I use the Monorail as a diversion/attraction. It's wonderful as both.
Originally Posted By Nobody From post # 27: "To clarify my previous statement which apparently some of you are too dense to comprehend:" I'll go ahead and be the one to take the ceremonial offense at this one. (You know, because the others are probably "too dense" to know that they were insulted.) You got caught making an apparently contradictory statement, that some of us thought was funny. Deal with it. Trying to explain it further certainly helps, but calling a group of people dense because you had trouble effectively communicating something in the first place seems a bit short-sighted. Now, let's get back to what should potentially be the real point to this. You contend that "Almost nobody goes on it just for the ride because they have to wait a long time with all those "transportation" folks in line.". Which lines are you looking at when you are guessing what other people are thinking? Are you looking at the line for hotel guests, or the line for regular folks? If it is indeed the later, then your statement still doesn't really hold water. I don't see much of a difference between the monorail and the steam trains. People either use them for transportation or fun or a combination of both. People look at the line and decide if it is worth it for what they want to get out of it. I would put forth that one of the monorail's biggest issues is that of it's capacity. As it is right now, if you're seeing any kind of lines, it doesn't need to be any more popular than it already is. "Get it?"
Originally Posted By arstogas >>>I am surprised that they would add Fastpass to nemo, and I am pretty disappointed.<<< Fastpass is dying. Watch Universal get rid of theirs altogether, and WDW will be removing most of their remaining FastPass machines over the next year. It's hard to imagine that Disneyland wouldn't be following in similar fashion.
Originally Posted By basas <<Fastpass is dying. Watch Universal get rid of theirs altogether, and WDW will be removing most of their remaining FastPass machines over the next year. >> We can only hope. Although, every latest attraction at WDW has recieved FP (Philharmagic, Mission:Space, Stitch, LMA, Soarin', Everest). I must say i was very, very happy to see that it wasn't included (as rumored it might be) on the re-done IASW, or Monsters Inc. over at DCA. Down with FP!
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 Buzz would be much better off without it. Nemo should never get it, and Star Tours should remove the last of the distribution area, so more guests could fit through the "new" worst bottleneck in the park.
Originally Posted By gadzuux You don't have to ride the monorail to enjoy it. I rarely ride, but I love seeing it when it goes by. It's an integral part of DLR, even if you never set foot on it.
Originally Posted By Elderp "Nemo should never get it," I disagree the sub area along with Autopia is going to become really congested (assuming it is a good attraction, the previews have been good so far). This is an attraction that will really need a FP. The main question is where do you put it? My guess is over by the matterhorn but then you would block the kodak picture spot. Then again they could take out the smoking section and I wouldn't care. The only problem with that is it is on the otherside of the attraction.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros FastPass causes more congestion. There is more traffic, because people will go to the attraction twice to ride it once. There is also trouble of people arriving a little early, and waiting around for their time to come up. Also, the machines and extra line will take up room, of which there is very little. The additional signs to direct people to the machines and queues (especially if the machines are fairly far away) will cause confusion, and more people will stand there, trying to figure out where they need to go. The area is fairly congested right now, without an attraction there. It will be far worse with an attraction, and unimaginable with FP too.
Originally Posted By disneymomof2 "There's this anti-gravity technology... quite ingenious in it's simplicty. I believe it's known as S.T.A.I.R.S." I guess you think you're being cute or smart, but excuse me what about people with disabilities. My father always comes to Dland with his grandchildren and sometimes the monorail is the best route for him to get back to the hotel and it's a wonderful ride for him with his disability.
Originally Posted By jmuboy Maybe the Fastpass at Autopia will be removed while this area is being rebuilt?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I guess you think you're being cute or smart, but excuse me what about people with disabilities.>> 'twas a joke. By law Disney has to provide access for guests with disabilities; how they accomplish that, I don't know. Still, that doesn't mean the main access wouldn't be by stairs.
