Originally Posted By Mr X ***The sad thing is that I think this is the new normal, at least for the next couple administrations. The losing side will see the winning president as "the enemy". It isn't good for us, a house divided and all that, but until cooler heads prevail this is where we're at*** The sooner we get past that, the better of we'll be I think.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 I have to agree, we have had two very bad presidents in a row now, but no need for the people to hate each other because one was Dem, one was Rep.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***I'm sure he does a good job of protecting his assets so he doesn't lose them when one of his businesses goes under*** One of his stories from a book I had the chance to read was something like "we were way behind and in trouble, and the investors were coming so I told them to just drive every heavy piece of equipment into the place they could find to make it look busy". In other words, he took pride in fooling (some might even say defrauding) his investors with a BS tactic. Yeah, that's something to hang your hat on!
Originally Posted By fkurucz "I have to agree, we have had two very bad presidents in a row now, but no need for the people to hate each other because one was Dem, one was Rep." That's the first semi-sensible thing you've ever said on LP.
Originally Posted By disneysharks2 "That's the first semi-sensible thing you've ever said on LP." Was that a complement?
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Has anyone else noticed that Donny started this thread a week ago, but then disappeared? Has hasn't posted in this thread or other WE threads since last weekend. In the meantime... a new poster shows up on Thursday, with the same poor spelling and grammar, and well-seasoned hatred for President Obama and Democrats. Coincidence?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 SB, disneysharks2 is clearly Beau, who was permanently banned here, and will be again after the mods get back from the long weekend, I expect. Donny is not nearly so aggressive or obnoxious.
Originally Posted By Labuda Yeah, Donny is much less harmful than ds2. Donny at least can listen to reason, though he does not always follow it.
Originally Posted By queenbee Look for homophone errors if you want a possible clue to the identity of DS2. These are hard to fix if you don't know the difference between hear/here. Donny still struggles with homophones, Beau did not.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Which is why I postulated that ds2 could be Donny. There has been several instances of "your" being used for "you're" which is what Donny typically does. But you're correct. The writing style is almost identical to how Beau used to post, especially the snark. Donny typically doesn't get snide, but Beau was the epitome of it. Still is, apparently.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Unfortunately, "your" for "you're" is an extremely typical mistake these days. Read any comments section to any news story any day of the week.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Sad but true, Dabob. I've always wondered what exactly makes trolls like these guys tick. It's almost like an addiction, isn't it? Narcissism on steroids. They want everything to go their way, and when they don't get it, they become bullies of the playground. Then the teachers eventually kick them off the playground, but they come back later with a new identity and start up their bullying ways again, until they're kicked out again. Lather, rinse, repeat. Did anyone here ever find out if Beau actually had a permanent full-time job? Was he supported by his wife? Or was he sponging off rich family members? He had the typical persona of a spoiled rich brat who never learned how to integrate into the larger society, proverbially stuck in his teens.
Originally Posted By Longhorn12 >I've always wondered what exactly makes trolls like these guys tick. It's almost like an addiction, isn't it? They want everything to go their way, and when they don't get it, they become bullies of the playground.< I was just a boy when the Troll Wars made me a man... In my experience on the internet (mostly *chans) Trolls do this for one reason. They find it fun. And why shouldn't they? They do one thing well (piss people off) and they take it to a medium where it doesn't matter if they irritate someone, because those people don't know them. It's not like arguing with someone in real life, as there are no consequences. Now I'll finish with the John Gabriel's Internet D**kwad Theory. Normal Person + Anonymity + Audience = Troll
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I don't mind having ds2 here. I didn't even mind Beau being here until he lost it and started going over the top with personal insults. It is good to have more than one point of view expressed in WE and let's face it... most of the thoughtful conservatives leave because of the constant bashing they take from this decidedly liberal board. ds2 is considered a troll and a bully largely because his point of view is the opposite of most here. I've seen many others here engage in far more aggressive behavior.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<ds2 is considered a troll and a bully largely because his point of view is the opposite of most here.>> That's crap. ds2 is a troll for being divisive and insulting and condescending. Others on these boards, such as you, RT, have opposing views, but you present them without inflammatory language. ds2 goes out of his way to insult everyone he doesn't agree with. He also takes statements out of context and twists their meaning to belittle the poster and/or make some grand sweeping observation about the supposed stupidity and/or immorality of "liberals" in general. ds2 is deliberately acting in a precise manner which is typically labeled as troll behavior. If we didn't view him in this light, he'd ratchet up the offensiveness even more until we declared him as such.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 RT, find me a single cogent argument that "DS2" has made since he's been here. There isn't one. Just bomb-throwing. THAT's why he's a troll. I too defended Beau (who is clearly DS2) if you remember, until he went off the deep end. But he was banned and that's the moderators' decision, and yet he keeps coming back with new names and throwing bombs till he's banned again, and that's just disrespectful to Doobie and the moderators, if nothing else. Thoughtful conservatives are always welcome here in my book - vbdad55, dvcdad, or if any who used to post wanted to come back. It can be hard to be in the minority, but when I first started posting here, liberals were the minority and I was called any number of things (and not just by Beau). If you've got a good position, you just hold your ground and state your case.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip If DS2 is indeed Beau he should probably not be here. Perhaps Admin is letting him hang around feeling that even if it is Beau, if he plays nice under the new name he can stay. Some sites will allow that. So far I don't think DS2 has crossed the line. Yes, he throws some bombs but what can you expect? That stuff passes on Fox as cogent debate. He has stayed away from the personal insults that got him banned before. Everyone once in a while he makes a fairly reasonable argument... <<>>Thank you, now you do need to take back the statement about it not being a real job. it's as real a job as there is.<< Well we can not agree on everything right? It is a Job that I will say, but not like the real world in that you don't pay for your retirement at the level that most in the privet sector do. And it's very very hard to get rid of a bad teacher. On the other hand most Americans can be fired at the drop of a hat.>>
Originally Posted By alexbook I find it hard to believe that anybody takes Trump seriously at this point. I don't know or care anything about his politics, but he presents a ludicrous image to the world, of an egomaniacal, dishonest businessman turned entertainer. He might be amusing to watch on TV, but I'd be as likely to vote for Paris Hilton. At least Schwarzeneggar never declared bankruptcy.