Originally Posted By Yookeroo "I think people want to hate it because it represents what we got at WDSP instead of what we COULD have got." Disney fandom in a nutshell.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>The problem I have is that for the entire cost of TSPL you could most likely build Toy Story Mania<<< That's another point that annoys me. According to Wikipedia TSPL was around 70 mio Euros (around 100 mio Dollars), and, again accoording to Wikipedia, TSM was 80 mio Dollars. That would be around 60 mio Euros. Given Europe's fire codes, TSM would be more expensive over here, but I'm sure it wouldn't go over 80-90 mio Euros. TSM would have been such a better investment than three carnival rides with poor capacity. I guess the problem was that WDI already knew that Ratatouille will get built and for TSM they would have had to create a surrounding area, like they did for Rat. I can imagine, that would have risen the costs.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm not positive, but I think that the 3 rides in TSPL combine to create a higher hourly capacity than TSMM. As is seen by the always-long queues for TSMM, it's capacity is relatively limited, which makes me think that the 3 cycle-loaders could match (or beat) it Additionally, it takes more time to experience the area and 3 separate queues than it would for a standalone attraction. And in a park that's really hurting for attractions, it's nice to be able to add multiple new ones to the list, making it look a lot better for a quick comparison of the 2 parks
Originally Posted By u k fan I think the other thing that TSPL adds over Midway Mania is kinetic energy. TSPL's attractions add some movement to a park that is nine tenths attractions in boxes. TSMM would be yet another ride in a box. Having tall attractions that can be seen moving in the distance gives guests a feeling that something is happening. I've never considered second gates to be "Magic Kingdom" style parks. To me that just describes DL style hub and spoke style parks!!!
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>I think the other thing that TSPL adds over Midway Mania is kinetic energy. <<< That's a good point. However, I think we should take the weather in Paris into consideration and that's why I would have prefered a ride in a building.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I've never considered second gates to be "Magic Kingdom" style parks. To me that just describes DL style hub and spoke style parks!!!<< I got mixed up ... thinking of HKDL's identical copy of this. That's an "MK" park that does contain this Toy Story land. And I think it looks awful.
Originally Posted By u k fan ^^^I figured that was probably what you meant and to be honest I have a bigger problem with TSPL there than in Paris as at least in WDSP it's part of another land. At HKDL it's its own mini-land and I really dislike lands with narrow themes!!!
