Originally Posted By mawnck >>I live in the type of place that your progressive policies screw up. I know it first hand. << And which local radio talk show host / college dropout told you this?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I live in the type of place that your progressive policies screw up. I know it first hand. >>> Which of "my" progressive policies are you referring to? The only policy I've stated or implied in this thread is that eligible citizens should be able to vote without undue hindrance. I would think that that would be a bipartisan goal, unless perhaps a certain group realizes that it's on the losing side of the democratic process and needs to rig the system in order to win.
Originally Posted By fkurucz Mexico just had their elections (July 1). Voter fraud is such a concern that: People are issued a special voters ID when they register. They have to prove they are citizens to register. At the polling stations they keep a book with the voter's photo, the check if they match. Voter fraud in the USA is so EASY that it's a joke. But we don't seem to care.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Voter fraud in the USA is so NONEXISTENT that it's a joke.<< Oh please. I could register my dog to vote. And we know just how hard our FedGov enforces laws it doesn't care about.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <a href="http://www.tampabay.com/news/in-florida-voter-fraud-is-rarer-than-shark-attacks/1219292" target="_blank">http://www.tampabay.com/news/i.../1219292</a>
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Oh please. I could register my dog to vote. >>> But would your dog appear on election day and cast a ballot? <<< And we know just how hard our FedGov enforces laws it doesn't care about. >>> Generally speaking, election matters are handled at the state and local level. It would be up to them to prosecute individual cases of voter fraud. So federal apathy has nothing to do with it.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Oh please. I could register my dog to vote. And we know just how hard our FedGov enforces laws it doesn't care about.<< Total fantasy talk. Pull your head out of your Fox-hole.
Originally Posted By fkurucz <<But would your dog appear on election day and cast a ballot?>> He could vote the way I do, via mail.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Total fantasy talk. Pull your head out of your Fox-hole.<< Sure, that's why we're up to our eyeballs in illegals. The only reason they've stopped coming is because there are no jobs.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Sure, that's why we're up to our eyeballs in illegals. >>> Illegal immigration is undoubtedly a huge issue. Non-citizens voting, not so much. They are totally separate issues in that one is enormous, and the other occurs so rarely that the current system in place can be deemed good enough.
Originally Posted By SuperDry ... and notice how noise machine tactics are being used in this thread: identify an issue that you want to lead with, then subtly dance around the issue, bringing in hot-button-issue tangents and pretending that they are speaking to the core. The issue is ineligible people voting. Subtly the discussion gets switched to false voter registrations (such as someone's dog) or illegal immigration in general. Our nation has no shortage of large problems. People ineligible to vote actually casting ballots isn't even a small issue - it's a non-issue.
Originally Posted By TMI That SuperDry guy should write a book about this stuff! I'd buy it (even though I'm more of a Kirin man meself!).
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Hell, we can barely get people that ARE eligible to vote out to vote. >>>Should illegals be allowed to vote ?<<< Heck I'll humor you by answering that totally foolish question if it will make you feel better. The answer, of course, is no! When there comes a time that an illegal is willing to walk into a public forum such as a polling place and take the chance of exposing themselves to deportation, I will start to concern myself over it. There are many issues with illegals, however, voting isn't one of them.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Should illegals be allowed to vote ?<< No. PS: Pics or it didn't happen.
Originally Posted By SuperDry And furthermore, even legal aliens should not be allowed to vote. Only US citizens do and should have the right to vote in US elections.
Originally Posted By Tikiduck Illegal aliens have the right to free education, welfare and health care, might as well let em vote too.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Illegal aliens have the right to free education, welfare and health care, might as well let em vote too.<< It seems they have more rights than most people who were born here legally...