Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Then again, what is cool, is all the Fantasyland's around the world are very different. Once the expansion opens, it will be an improvement to the Tragic Kingdom.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I never said that it didn't, Dave. But, I do think there is something to be said for incorporating the "Tent Look" into a highly detailed and green Fantasyland. Merge the two. Which is what I hope will happen once FLE opens. Keep some of the retro/original feel of the land while making it more visually pleasing.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself I'm not a fan of the tents, but with the new castle walls serving to seperate the sort of "courtyard" area from the "forest"...they should be less of an issue.
Originally Posted By Bolna I think that is the reason for the castle wall: to prevent people from directly comparing the newer portion with the old tents. Otherwise guests could not avoid noticing how horrible the tents are in comparison.
Originally Posted By Bolna ^^ Thanks! I guess it comes from the fact that I first saw DL and DLP Fantasylands before I saw WDW for the first time. I was quite in shock how Disney would claim those cheap looking tents were a Fantasyland...
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yep, and yet there are Europeans who go to Walt Disney World claiming it their fav park and sadly have not visited DLP or DL.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<Yep, and yet there are Europeans who go to Walt Disney World claiming it their fav park and sadly have not visited DLP or DL.>> How sad. Why are people limiting their own experiences so much? If anyone in Europe can afford a vacation at WDW, the trip to California isn't going to be that much more expensive. And besides DL there is an awful lot to see as well. And DLP really is not difficult to get to for most Western Europeans...
Originally Posted By Bolna <<Wasn't Dumbo in a circus with tents?>> Yes, but I think those Fantasyland tents are supposed to be a medieval tournament or fair ground. Dumbo will have its own circus tents soon enough - in the old Toontown.
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I'm open minded about it all, and look forward to seeing it all finished.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I do wonder what the view through the castle will be without the carousel visible behind it cause I heard that was silently disappearing... (which if true makes me really mad)>> I would find this damn near impossible to believe, but still would love to know where you heard this from (in private if you prefer as I do owe you a call). I also don't believe a lot of things ... like say just because something's been blue sky'd and there's artwork and renderings of what something might look like, it does not mean it is happening whether we are speaking of a Frontierland project, a Brazil pavilion for EPCOT, a California-themed hotel/DVC mixed use project or a massive redo of DD with a colorful addition. ~I have an Orange Bird pin ... wanna see it? ... Come closer ... ~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Thanks! I guess it comes from the fact that I first saw DL and DLP Fantasylands before I saw WDW for the first time. I was quite in shock how Disney would claim those cheap looking tents were a Fantasyland...>> Well, DL's looked like that sorta too ... but only until 1983. DL's and DLP's are so much more organic because of the stylized facades, paver brick walkways, flowers and landscaping and waterways (moreso at DLP). Even HKDL's has MK's beat on beauty. If it just had one more dark ride (like Pan or Mermaid as it was supposed to have from Day 1), I'd flat out say it is better than MK's because you also have a major show venue with the terrific Golden Mickeys. Thing is, though, MK's Fantasyland (even with the tents) was a much more beautiful place from 1971-1994 when 20,000 Leagues was running. The lagoon and trees and rockwork off-set the concrete jungle (to be fair, there were also more planters that have been removed so the double-wide strollers and ECVs can get thru) ... and even the Skyway provided some kinetics too.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 I can't wait to see the guest backlash when they see the Beast's Castle (which has been purposely desingned to comepete w/ Hogwarts IE: massive entry gate, castle on rocks, etc etc.) and realize the only thing inside is.....A RESTAURANT. NOT an attraction. Cannot wait! HA!
Originally Posted By leobloom ^^WDW PR response: "Guests were surveyed and answered that if an attraction was put inside the BATB castle structure, they would be very disappointed. "Walt Disney World guests cherish the opportunity to dine at restaurants that provide a magical, one-of-a-kind experience that will bring out the kid in everyone. "In fact, they frequently see restaurants as attractions that add to their magical visits to our world-class theme parks. "They also really like hotel rooms, so don't be surprised if these are the last attractions we build for awhile. The guests are demanding more restaurants and resorts, so we will try our best to satisfy our guests' wishes."
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Personally, I think it's going to be an improvement over Mickey's Toontown. I'm kinda of surprised that a more permant stage area (even an indoor one) was not incorporated in the "New" Fantasyland. I think it would have been more preferable to have a show rather than a 40 minute Belle meet and greet.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I think that is the reason for the castle wall: to prevent people from directly comparing the newer portion with the old tents. Otherwise guests could not avoid noticing how horrible the tents are in comparison.<<< Well, that, and it's a thematic justification. Makes sense to me.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I think the idea of a "wall" is just so wrong. Might as well call it the "Berlin Wall" and "Checkpoint Charlie".
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Personally, I think it's going to be an improvement over Mickey's Toontown. >> Circusland is Toontown 2.0. Or should I say Birthdayland 4.0?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think the idea of a "wall" is just so wrong. Might as well call it the "Berlin Wall" and "Checkpoint Charlie". << Do you think they will have armed Characters patrolling it?
