Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 We do know how some fans ... and some OCD bloggers are obsessed with walls!
Originally Posted By MPierce We don't need no education We dont need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers leave them kids alone Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone! All in all it's just another brick in the wall. All in all you're just another brick in the wall. We don't need no education We dont need no thought control No dark sarcasm in the classroom Teachers leave them kids alone Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone! All in all it's just another brick in the wall. All in all you're just another brick in the wall. "Wrong, Do it again!" "If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?" "You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Seems to me we're straining a bit if we're directing our ire at a wall that is but one detail of a massive expansion...>> Expansion? It took Disney 22 years to getting around to replacing 20,000 K. How is that an expansion? It's a make over pure and simple. Again, the wall is unnecessary. And like the soccers hat in DHS, an abstruction. There are plenty of improvement that need to happen to Fantasyland. A wall isn't one of them. If, Disney wanted to improve the "appearance" of the area around the castle, then do something with the front of the building in Fantasyland that make the entire area feel like a shopping mall.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom In many ways this reminds me of when Disney bulldozed 20,000 K and put in Pooh's play area. There were many of us where were totally against the Pooh play area. We were told how necessary the Pooh play area was.... how great it was going to be for families with young children have have an area to allow their children to play whilest other older siblings could enjoy the offerings in Fantasyland. Those of us against this move stated that is if 20,000 K was bulldozed then that would be the perfect time to take down Mickey's Toontown (which was suppose to be temporary) and build a more permanent area that would fit in with Fantasyland. Looks like years later we were right!
Originally Posted By Bolna Kennesaw Tom, my first reaction when I heard about the castle wall was similar to yours: a wall just seemed a too harsh barrier inside a park. But I am quite optimistic now that it can actually work. It will in no way look like the Berlin Wall, but might actually be quite pretty. I think the recent output of WDI might be sometimes questionable with regard to content, but it generally is rather pretty to look at. Even the horrible Toy Story Playland in Paris looks very nice.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: As long as the new wall doesn't create congestion, my sisters and I can live with it. ORGOCH: But if'n it DOES create any a that there congestion, I got ways a taken it down! ORWEN: You've got ways of taking almost ANYthing down, old biddy--with your body odor alone!
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Expansion? It took Disney 22 years to getting around to replacing 20,000 K. How is that an expansion? It's a make over pure and simple<< I disagree. The new attractions are occupying a large area that has never been "guest areas" before. And the 20K attraction isn't being "made over," it's been replaced with something completely different. As for the Pooh Playground, I cannot imagine that anyone actually believed that was anything other than a placeholder. Yes, the PR machine rolled out the language, but the reality is that things like that are clearly temporary. (Just like the "temporary" storefront across from the Mad Hatters on Disneyland's Main Street that has been there since 1956!)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Seems that the WALL is going ahead, as some thought that it was cut? I know another planter was removed to make room for it...
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Yes, the PR machine rolled out the language, but the reality is that things like that are clearly temporary. (Just like the "temporary" storefront across from the Mad Hatters on Disneyland's Main Street that has been there since 1956!) << The Mouse views time differently than we do. To him the Pyramids of Giza are temporary structures.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I know another planter was removed to make room for it... << I hate it when we lose planters.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer It is rather a bereft feeling when one kicks the bucket... ..but I can always be consoled with 2093809238408 REFURB WALL PICTURES!!!!!!
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<The new attractions are occupying a large area that has never been "guest areas" before.>> The area in question was formerly a distinctive E-ticket attraction unique to the MK Fantasyland. Unless your talking about the area that once was the drydock for 20,000 K and what looks like on satillite photos to be a small parking lot area (for 20,000K employees I imagine). And, since that area is not yet completed (we will have to wait till it's all finished) I'm not sure how much of that area will still be off limits to guests. Everything else was former Mickey's Toontown.
Originally Posted By 3disneylocations Some thoughts... Getting rid of Mickey's Birthday land is geneous. Alway thought it a complete waste of space. Been to MK w/4 Nephews (4 to 10 yrs)... They were enthralled w/Fl. Brought adult 1st timers and 1st thing they wanted to do was ride IASW-go figure. Most people don't acknolege the tents and are looking @ the attractions... And (for us adults) airconditioning.
Originally Posted By Lee hisownself >>I know another planter was removed to make room for it...<< >>I hate it when we lose planters.<< Never fear. The castle walls include new planters. Several, in fact.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Actually 20k cast members parked in the main cast parking lot a bus ride away from the back of the park. The small parking lot was for managers of various departments as well as maitenance vehicles. The new expansion will include areas that were previously non-guest areas including that parking area and some areas behind that. I have no fear about the wall. Disney tends to do that kind of stuff well. Now if we can only get them to not to take decades for the next addition to the MK it would be wonderful.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Never fear. The castle walls include new planters. Several, in fact.>> Just think of the photographic opportunities in store ...
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Now if we can only get them to not to take decades for the next addition to the MK it would be wonderful.>> I'm thinking the next addition won't be one at all ... just a Frontierland enhancement based on something created for DL a decade ago.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Never fear. The castle walls include new planters. Several, in fact. <<<< Thrilling.
