Originally Posted By danyoung Once again we're approaching the point where none of us are going to be swayed by the other's arguments. This is evidenced by the fact that TDLFAN can no longer speak coherently, but can only insult, which is always his fallback position. The pay for FP idea is a solution in search of a problem. FP as it is works great. As long as they don't overdo it, and continue to revise it, as they did by taking it off of POTC in DL, then it's a terrific benefit to those willing to use a few working brain cells to figure it out.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>Let's assume for one moment they did make FP a pay-option, and they sell out before you, a local, can buy one. What is your opinion of it then?<< I have stated before that I am not interested in purchasing a FP option, and if it was available to others for a nominal fee, then I would not mind standing in line and yielding to those who *paid* for the benefit, since it would only be *fair* to those guests who paid more for a benefit I do not care to participate/pay for at all. That is how I feel about it, and I know this because that is how I have experienced the system at both Universal Orlando and Japan, where I have never purchased the Express booklet, and somehow, even their stand by lines seem to move faster than Disney's. Possibly because not too many people care to pay for this option? ..And Danno, blame it on the beer. It was friday night. Difference is.. you are still unhandsome.
Originally Posted By danyoung It's always hard with you, TDLFAN, to tell when you're being truly insulting or just throwing a good natured barb. Since I know I'm a danged good looking fellow, I'll assume it's the latter.
Originally Posted By Labuda "I have stated before that I am not interested in purchasing a FP option, and if it was available to others for a nominal fee, then I would not mind standing in line and yielding to those who *paid* for the benefit, since it would only be *fair* to those guests who paid more for a benefit I do not care to participate/pay for at all. That is how I feel about it, and I know this because that is how I have experienced the system at both Universal Orlando and Japan, where I have never purchased the Express booklet, and somehow, even their stand by lines seem to move faster than Disney's. Possibly because not too many people care to pay for this option?" They had this at Six Flags when my buddies and I went up there for a day trip back in sumemr of '04 or so. WE LOVED IT! An extra $0 for the three of us, and we got to bypass the lines for the coasters. HECK, YEAH! We loved it! We didn't get it at first figuring it'd be a waste, then after waiting for about 45 minutes to ride Titan and seeing foks with this little gizmo going right up to the frotn of the line - we immediately went to the place we could get it and picked it up. Saved us quite a bit of time during the day - we got to ride all the coasters multiple times!
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<I didn't intend for this thread to segue into FP>> If that is true, you shouldn't have used the misleading title "Unlimited FastPass -- for purchase."
Originally Posted By danyoung >An extra $0 for the three of us...< No way - that's just too expensive!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>It's always hard with you, TDLFAN, to tell when you're being truly insulting or just throwing a good natured barb. Since I know I'm a danged good looking fellow, I'll assume it's the latter.<< Two things.. A) with me? you will never know danno, and B) I have seen your pic and trust me... I much rather mate with a palm tree if you were the last man on Earth. >>We didn't get it at first figuring it'd be a waste, then after waiting for about 45 minutes to ride Titan and seeing foks with this little gizmo going right up to the frotn of the line - we immediately went to the place we could get it and picked it up. Saved us quite a bit of time during the day - we got to ride all the coasters multiple times! << See?!? An intelligent Texan at last!! All of a sudden, paying for FP benefits is a good idea.. Only one catch. At Universal, you can only jump to the front of the line ONCE per attraction, or else, it would be extremely unfair to guests standing by.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Two things.. A) with me? you will never know danno, and B) I have seen your pic and trust me... I much rather mate with a palm tree if you were the last man on Earth. << Were you the guy I saw hitting up on Wes Palm back on Feb 2 2006? Just curious.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN I have not been to West Palm in the last two years or so. Besides, I have a fiery redned at home whom I adore, so there is no need for palm trees around this household.
Originally Posted By danyoung Sigh...cheap shots and insults. You can tell TDLFAN has exhausted his limited supply of intelligent conversation. Have fun with your palm tree, buddy.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I was at MGM today and there were NO fastpasses being distributed at severalof the rides and shows...R&RC, Star Tours, Motors Action show, Indy show, just to name the few I saw. I did notice the Lil Mermaid show was offering FP ticketing...for the very next show to begin!! It seemed like the good old days all over again. < also the kids are back in school....makes for a different crowd than summer months
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <>>I have a hard time with this statement, as does my friend vbdad.<< YOU have.. FRIENDS!?!?! *shock* < Yep and glad to be counted among his many..
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <I would argue that it's not. I would argue that you paid your $60 to get in and you had 8 hours more than me to enjoy the parks, including multiple FP's. I came in later for the same $60, and I can't get the one FP that I want. < then my GOD, Annual passes are the anti-Christ and totally unfair. If one comes in at 6 pm and paid $60 - that was THEIR choice... when the bell rings at 8 AM - everyone has an equal chance - I have yet to see a 'fairer' system....
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Does anyone really think charging a 'nominal fee' for FP privleges is going to stop most families plunking down $3K - $10K for their trip from purchasing and then we're right back to where we are. The only difference is those who can afford to get screwed the least, do.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> when the bell rings at 8 AM << Count me among those who does get up at the crack of dawn when on my Disney vacation. I love every minute until I crash at 11pm. But there probably are people in the world who simply are here to enjoy the day, in a manner less clock oriented than their homebound workaday world. Maybe they enjoy spending the first few hours of the day at their resort hotel, enjoying a breakfast at riverside. For those people, "when the bell rings at 8 AM" is anaethema. What you're telling me is that those people have "chosen" to give up any FP's that they might have gotten, because they didn't get up and join the rush.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I have yet to see a 'fairer' system.... << Exactly. I'm not anti-FP, or anti-AP, not at all. I'm trying to find ways to make it more fair. My definition of "fair" does not include "Get your bucket out of bed and join the rush." For others, it does. Usually the one's who are early risers, and can't understand why there are people who are not.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> The lotto system at TDL. But you would not know that << TDLFAN -- How does the lotto system at TDL work for groups? Or is it just individual by individual?
