Originally Posted By Moon Waffle Curious, yes, I guess Nemo is in a way like this. But the key difference to me is: Nemo is not 3-D. The 3-D just adds that extra layer of realism. With Nemo, I can tell I'm watching a screen out there somewhere. With the upgraded HD Spider-man ride, my brain cannot register where the physical sets end and the movie begins. It's just that good.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance dsyhates don't talk that way, there ARE blocks on the walls and whatnot in TSMM.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I've never been on Spiderman, bet it'd be really fun though. Is this ride only at Orlando, or do they have it at Hollywood too?
Originally Posted By dshyates Spiderman is not in Hollywood. But you should get the idea of what it is like from Transformers.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "With Nemo, I can tell I'm watching a screen out there somewhere. With the upgraded HD Spider-man ride, my brain cannot register where the physical sets end and the movie begins. It's just that good." I think there's more to it than that. Spiderman also features a motion simulator vehicle that is synchronized with the on screen action. If only Disneyland's Subs had something that cool underwater. Can you imagine? Boy, they really missed an opportunity when they brought that relic back. *sigh* But that's another story.
Originally Posted By tashajilek ^^ You think its bad now? you should have seen the horrible naked mermaids! the ride was pretty lame and i actually like it better than before. Im not saying i like it, usually one ride every few years will be enough for me.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I get a little claustrophobic on Nemo, and the seats aren't the greatest. That's one attraction that always ends long after I wish it did.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "...you should have seen the horrible naked mermaids!" They looked like department store mannequins. Remember the plastic fish dangling on wires? Yeah, the ride is a whole lot better now. At the time the original Submarine Voyage and 20,000 Leagues were probably the most embarrassing attractions at any Disney theme park.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I get a little claustrophobic on Nemo, and the seats aren't the greatest. That's one attraction that always ends long after I wish it did." Not to mention if you get the seat right behind the worker standing there in the middle you have his/her butt right next to your head the whole time. Which I guess depending on a lot of circumstances could be a very good or very bad thing. Personally though, I don't want anyone's butt next to my head!
Originally Posted By CDF2 Looks very much like Spiderman from the standpoint of the integration of live motion, graphics and special effects. I like the immersive aspect of Universal's approach. POTC is classic, is a marvel in terms of it's complexities but frankly may be a bit dated now. Indy certainly integrates things a bit more tightly and presents the immersive experience - I would imaging Star Tours II does the same with its current improvements over th original. It's pretty amazing times we live in where these kinds of forms of entertainment are availble.
Originally Posted By phruby Have you seen the video between Spiderman and Transformers POV? They use the same track and screen layout. Makes you wonder when Spiderman at IOA will be replaced with Transformers.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Might be sooner than we think. I'm betting Disney is anxious to see any Marvel tie-ins or contractual agreements it has with competing parks expire so that it can have complete control over them for its parks.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper They don't expire. <<As for buying Uni out for the sole purpose of being able to use those characters in the Florida parks....not gonna happen. I've been told on numerous occasions that Disney has no intention of trying to change the contract with Uni (Which, as I've been told on more than one occasion by Disney people, does not have an end date.). Mainly because it doesn't make financial sense. Why? Because at this point Universal has the upper hand in that particular situation. They don't need the money. Comcast is doing very well financially, and is already preparing to dump a substantial sum into the Florida resort in the next few years. They have no reason at all to sell those rights, and thus would set a very high price. (Like if someone wants to buy your favorite collectable. You love it, don't really want to sell it, so you slap an outrageous price on it just to end the process.) Say Universal slaps a price tag of a billion on it. (That's probably a bit conservative, but just for example...) A billion for the rights, plus another two hundred million to pay for the re-theming of the land in IoA. If Disney were insane enough to go for it, they would be in the hole by $1.2 billion before they even move one shovel of dirt to build their own attraction, which would likely run to another $200mil. That's nearly a billion and a half just to build one ride in one park in WDW. Can anyone make a reasonable case for why they would ever do that? Nope. That's because there is no way to make that work financially. Even if Iger was the type to try that sort of thing, which he isn't, the board would laugh at him and likely throw stuff in his direction. Not to mention what Wall Street would say. It's a laughable idea at best. Would they like to be able to build a Marvel ride at WDW? Sure. The creative possibilities are endless and it would be a great selling/bragging point. But it simply isn't worth it. Not when they are already the most visited resort in the world. Might Uni get a few thousand more guests this summer because of Avengers? Yeah. Will it be enough to put Disney into a panic mode? Nope. (Side note: Why is it that the same people that say Disney has nothing to fear from the Potter-effect, also feel that now that Avengers is a hit Disney HAS to get them in the Florida parks. If Potter didn't hurt Disney, why would Avengers? Just wondering...) Anyhow, Disney doesn't need the Marvel characters in WDW and Universal doesn't need the money from a sale. The status quo is working for both parties. The only place the sort of debate in this thread is taking place is among fans, not in meeting rooms in Orlando and California. >>
Originally Posted By dshyates Disney and Comcast really don't like each other anyway. They butt heads over carrying ESPN every four years or so. I really think that the bad blood between Disney and Comcast, and Disney and Universal makes any kind of reasonable negotiations nearly impossible.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "They don't expire." This needs further explanation and facts to back it up.
Originally Posted By CDF2 Nothing wrong with cloning a ride configuration from one park to another - big savings in design process and most likely maintenance as the more parts you can buy in bulk the better price you can get. Aside from upcoming Potter clone at USH, doesn't seem like Universal really worries too much about that kind of thing. Seems like its more of a "what do we have room for in the limited space at USH" than anything else.
Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>Nothing wrong with cloning a ride configuration from one park to another - big savings in design process and most likely maintenance as the more parts you can buy in bulk the better price you can get. << It's also what Disney has been doing for decades, sometimes within the same park: Adventure through Inner Space/Haunted Mansion iasw/Pirates Star Tours/Body Wars Test Track/Radiator Springs Racers
Originally Posted By xrayvision An even better example would be Disney's use of the DL's Indiana Jones ride system and track layout to create DAK's Countdown to Extinction/Dinosaur.
