Originally Posted By trekkeruss ^^ I want to say I saw it on one of the newsmagazines on TV (20/20, 60 minutes, etc.)... they were doing a story specifically about porn in utah homes.
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Originally Posted By Jafar30 <<Is it just me or does Utah have some very hot chicks?>> I went to Utah a few years ago to watch some NCAA tournament games and there were some very pleasant young ladies. But nothing and I mean nothing compares to the campus of Arizona State.
Originally Posted By Beaumandy Hve to agree with you about ASU Jafar. Top shelf talent on that campus. You know what. It really sucks to get old. LOL
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>I want to say I saw it on one of the newsmagazines on TV (20/20, 60 minutes, etc.)... they were doing a story specifically about porn in utah homes<< I find that kind of interesting in the sense that many mail order houses won't ship to Utah. They must be getting it from somewhere else...
Originally Posted By goodgirl <<Is it just me or does Utah have some very hot chicks? If they are into porn then that's a bonus.>> Come on Beau. Those statements are insulting. Surely you don't get away with comments like that where you work or attend church.
Originally Posted By SuperDry Regarding refusing to ship porn to Utah, the basis of this is the way obscenity law works in the US: pornographic material (involving adults) is constitutionally-protected free speech, but not if it rises to the level of "obscene" based on the "standards of the community." So, the notion of what's legal and what's not varies depending on the collective morality of the community. This standard is at least remotely workable for local outlets, such as theaters or video stores. But how is a mail order or Internet business supposed to determine what's considered obscene based on the standards of the community? On which community is this standard judged? As reported above, many apparently have taken the approach of "we don't ship to Utah" in order to avoid having that community's standards applied to its products. Anyway, the reason I bring this all up is it leads into two great stories: - When the Supreme Court established the precident on the matter, it established the notion of it being constitutional to ban "obscene" material while at the same time having adult material in general be protected speech. In 1964, Justice Stewart famously stated that he was unable to define exactly what obscenity was, but that "I know it when I see it." That's such a great quote, and it has entered into common use even though most people don't know where it came from. But, it's not a very clear standard by which to judge things, which leads me to the next story: - In the late 90's, the owner of a local adult video store in Utah was brought up on charges of selling "obscene" material. Some would say that the local DA was trying to run porn out of his county by taking an overly-broad view of what obscenity was. The defense was successful in getting a "not guilty" verdict, partly by showing that the Marriott Hotel (which by the way was founded by a devout Mormon) directly across the street from the courthouse sold many adult movies per day to guests in their rooms, and that these movies were no less "hardcore" than the ones that the defendant was being prosecuted for. The defense showed that there were many businesses in the community that sold such material, even in Utah.
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<The defense showed that there were many businesses in the community that sold such material, even in Utah.>> When I drove through Utah this past July, I noticed billboards advertising adult movie stores. I noticed many LDS oriented billboards as well.