Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad I vote for one where lobbyist are not allowed to provide anything except information. Take away the lobbyists perks and maybe our representatives will actually vote in a way that represents their constituancy. The current system is just legal bribery.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip vbdad... sorry to take your thread further off course than it already was. Also sorry to be so strident. But things have just gone way over the edge. When people go nuts over a President giving school kids a talk urging them to stay in school, something has gone drastically wrong. I truly fear we are heading for civil war. And last time I checked civil wars don't have a third side for moderates. You hang your hat with one side or the other. I think if everyone would just mellow out and go to the Magic Kingdom we could find some common ground. At least outside of the Pooh Park. ;-)
Originally Posted By vbdad55 NP Trippy - and I have no problem with the prez talking to the kids - if it is just about the imprtance of education- that would be great -- but where I get worried is he has people in that camp making video's like the "I Pledge" video where by the end you have people pledging their service and allegiance to Barack Obama. That is very scary stuff - and Josef Goebels would be proud. My friends 94 year old grandmother made that comparison to Goebels stuff - not me ( she left Nazi germany in 1941 and left everything behind) - and said she saw people pledging to a man, not to a party or an ideal- and this scared the heck out of her. Now I am not going as far as saying he is a Nazi- or any of that nonsense- but when people start making statement like that - I worry for the level of division in this country getting worse. I am done with Foo Fighters and Ashton Kutcher is a butthead for saying things like that...George Washington was worried the office could become a worship role which is why he originally didn't want it and refused to be called King. It took 230 years but some people are carrying their support too far. Before you blow me off on this - ask yourself this question. If some far right wing nut jobs ( and with a lot of influence like these 'stars' ) did a video pledging their allegiance to W -- where do you think your reaction and others would have been ? I can tell you mine would have been the same fpor either -NO WAY do I pledge service and allegiance to Barack Obama / George W or any other living person ( sans my wife - LOL ! )
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I don't go to W/E any more- I assume this is there- but here it is for others- the first 2/3 of the video I think are just fine - no issues - but the comments in the last 60 seconds- you have to be kidding me-- <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6LUitaW7mI&NR=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...7mI&NR=1</a>
