Originally Posted By jonvn "Google just told me "Internet" should be capitalized. Is this true or is Google trying to elevate its universe to an actual place." It's supposed to be capitalized. "How many of the folks here, or the public in general, have eaten at Victorias and Alberts?" I have. Children don't belong there. There are things at WDW for all kinds of people, not just people with kids. You don't need to have kids going to a place like this that they won't enjoy anyway. I believe Disney provides baby sitting services so parents can get away for the evening. There's nothing wrong with them doing this, and the rule was obviously put in place for a reason, so big deal.
Originally Posted By Ursula I've eaten and enjoyed many 5 star places and I frequent Club 33, if that counts. I get to WDW about once a year so eventually I will eat at V&A's.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper And, this certainly is not precedent-setting. Chidren don't belong in Mannequins either for that matter. And, as has been mentioned, there are adults-only areas on the Disney Cruise Ships.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> She did say that it is a 5 star that serves 7 course dinners that can take up to 3 hours. Staring at $125 per person << I don't think she said that when I watched, the newscaster seemed to not understand how V&A worked. I'm also not sure if you meant the newscast was clumsy (I did think so), or Disney. I don't feel like Disney did anything wrong. I'm not sure how they could have handled it better, since they aren't building another 5 star restaurant. I am more concerned about changes that effect millions, than those that effect 150 or so per night (and really, less than that - since most people don't bring underage kids with them). And yup - there are a lot posts. Most V&A, some boxer shorts and Hooters posts. I love kids - but if I'm spending $125 - $200.00 plus tax and tip for dinner, plus getting dressed up nicely, I kind of prefer a more adult setting.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> And, this certainly is not precedent-setting. Chidren don't belong in Mannequins either for that matter. And, as has been mentioned, there are adults-only areas on the Disney Cruise Ships. << One out of 4 sit-down restaurant on the Disney cruise is adults only. There are still no adults-only restaurants at WDW, this is as close to it as it gets. Someone mentioned (I believe here) that Disney has taken some nice dining locations and made them character dining. Why not allow for some adult dining too?
Originally Posted By jonvn I've been to Hooters, too. The wings were ok. A half naked girl sitting down at my table and pretending to be my friend was just odd.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> A half naked girl sitting down at my table and pretending to be my friend was just odd. << I'm sure a lot of guys would tip more for that. Denise
Originally Posted By dshyates "You keep saying this, but your only solution is for Disney to open a new restaurant with the restrictions already in place, which does nothing to address V&A's problem. Why was this clumsy?" Because they opened themselves up for getting slammed in the national media. Never a good thing. There are also several ways they could have made the exact change more gracefully. They could have changed the name of the restaurant and reopened it as child only. But after years of developing the reputation that's not a good idea. If I was going to ban kids from V$As. I would have closed it for a week make a few changes, tweeking type changes(Like a chioce of different scented warm moist towels to start off with). Reopen it as a plussed V$As with kids free as one of the kicked up additions.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper There will never be anything odd about a half naked girl sitting at my table while I'm eating wings...unless she happens to be playing the tuba. Even then I might be fine with it. I believe Disney's Castaway Cay has at least one adult only section on the beach.
Originally Posted By CMDad Yep - Serenity Cove - at the back of the island - is adult only ... ... gotta tell you - my wife and I certainly appreciated that nice quiet beach. You don't even have to go back to the main area to eat if you don't want to as it has its own place.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Because they opened themselves up for getting slammed in the national media." Ok, they were slammed, and now it's over. And the place will just go on as before. "There will never be anything odd about a half naked girl sitting at my table while I'm eating wings" It was creepy and a bit depressing.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> They could have changed the name of the restaurant and reopened it as child only << Child-only? They certainly could have gone about it many ways. Instead of V&A, they could have renamed it S&M, and made it truly an adult experience. I think they did okay with it.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> gotta tell you - my wife and I certainly appreciated that nice quiet beach. You don't even have to go back to the main area to eat if you don't want to as it has its own place. << I'm actually not much of a beach person, I spent my day biking at CC last time (a few hours, anyway). Then I freaked myself out going parasailing. I did go to a beach - I think it was on St. Marten (one of the St. places). It was a very naked beach, once you got away from the tourist crowd.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Cedar Point in Ohio today announced a new "Snoopy" land. Part of that announcement included a new (or redone) restaurant that will be for kids. Adults are allowed to eat of the small adult menu but the kids are basically in charge there. Cute idea. This whole topic goes to the bigger issue of Disney trying to make sure the general public knows that it isn't just a kid's place. The comedians and pundits cracking about this obviously are not familar with all that is Disney. And sure, it makes for an easy joke.
Originally Posted By CMDad <<I'm actually not much of a beach person, I spent my day biking at CC last time (a few hours, anyway). Then I freaked myself out going parasailing.>> Me neither - though this was a fun day at CC. Although Sandy wouldn't come with us, DD and I did go parasailing ... loved it! <a href="http://thefendricks.com/TRCruise2004/para1.jpg" target="_blank">http://thefendricks.com/TRCrui se2004/para1.jpg</a> Yes - that IS me <a href="http://thefendricks.com/TRCruise2004/para2.jpg" target="_blank">http://thefendricks.com/TRCrui se2004/para2.jpg</a> And this is Iris <G>
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Was that before or after the parasailing tragedy in Ft. Lauderdale last year? A college gal and her friend were parasailing together when something went wrong. They ended up over the beach and got dragged through some palm trees before hitting the top of a hotel, being dragged down the roof line and stopping in another palm. One of the two was killed. Otherwise, it is a pretty safe endeavor.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome Mark - fun photos! I am very scared of heights, but figured I'd try it (this 4 or so years ago). That was my only and last time parasailing. I was very proud of myself! I had never heard of any deaths - it always seemed pretty safe. And I guess it really is, but I'd hate to be the one who had an accident.
