Originally Posted By dshyates "What is it lacking that it's not 5 stars?" Mostly presentation and service. And the food isn't quite there with the unique choices and "the Chefs Tabe" or a Chefs Select with Wine Pairings type option. Ca Grill is very nice, just not a 5 star. As far as I know V&As is the only 5 star in central Florida. I always found V&As fun, but with the "maids and Butlers", the overall look of the place, and its location in TGF it always felt themed Disney restaurant. Perfect for kids. I know, while my kids would behave at either place, THEY would enjoy V&As more than Ca Grill. But they would enjoy the fireworks view@Ca Grill. I wonder if I complain enough I can get them to ban kids at all the premier eating locations. I don't want to hear screaming kids at Ca Grill anymore than V&As. Or Artist Pointe. For that matter, I don't want to hear screaming kids ruining my MK visit either.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome The more I'm paying, definitely the more I'd not want screaming kids around (or adults, as others have said). Thanks for explaining the 4/5 stars - I probably couldn't tell the difference between 2 and 5! I just don't dine out very often, and a place like the CA Grill is more like once every couple of years.
Originally Posted By dshyates One of the problems all over WDW is parents pushing the kids to physical exhaustion. The number of meltdowns I see everywhere is crazy. Parenting is a skill not everyone has. The number of adults throwing fits is also stunning. I would imagine Disney is giving into their whining on this one.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome This past year, I saw a kid on his back (he may have been 10), on a sidewalk on MGM, as his mom wailed on him with two hands (his arms and legs were up in the air to block her hitting him). A bunch of us just were stunned, and a security guard came over at that point. Security was like "any problems here"? The mom said, nope, no problems - and continued beating on him. Some parents don't deserve kids. I've never seen anything like that, the kid wasn't doing anything to fight back. I don't even know if I can call that a meltdown, I bet it happens worse in their own home. But there are times when it's the parent. I am glad a security guard was there, I have no idea what I could have done.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Heat, crowds, lots of money spent, not enough time to do everything, it makes some people (young and old) wacko. They need to step back and take a deep breath.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome The V&A thing is making the news rounds today - including on Fark, where pretty much everyone is applauding the change.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome Fark.com is like a geeky place to talk about news, not news, etc. It's actually really fun. Every Saturday is Caturday! (LOL Cats). I didn't post in the V&A thread.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^^^True, but what if they decided to have a restaurant where no one over the age of 75 could go? We wouldn't want their infirmities or old age looks ruining everyone's dinner. Ridiculous right? << How many people here at LP have had you meal disturbed by a whining, obnoxious, loud 75 year old at WDW, please raise your hand. Ok, now how many people have had their meal disturbed by a whining, obnoxious, loud child at WDW, please raise your hand.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Thanks for explaining the 4/5 stars - I probably couldn't tell the difference between 2 and 5! I just don't dine out very often, and a place like the CA Grill is more like once every couple of years. << Please let me break it down for you Denise! McDonlds 5 stars Jack n' the Box 4 stars KFC 3 stars DQ 2 stars Burger King 1 star
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> Ok, now how many people have had their meal disturbed by a whining, obnoxious, loud child at WDW, please raise your hand. <<< Here, here! Although... >> How many people here at LP have had you meal disturbed by a whining, obnoxious, loud 75 year old at WDW, please raise your hand. << Umm...once. Not obnoxious, but he appeared to have alzheimers or some other disease. He was very loud, and management went to speak to the table. They left. That is very rare, I don't remember any others.
Originally Posted By CMDad I have to admit that I am actually quite tolerant. Last week I thought there might be a problem when we were at the Tusker House buffet as a family walked in and one of the young (4?) children was a bit hyper ... the other one was obviously in the middle of an argument with his dad. However, once they got their food the youngster was more interested in that than making a spectacle of himself. Usually, if the parents are making the proper attempt at controlling the child, I am satisfied. Too often the child is being a child (ie: normal) while the parent does nothing to control him/her. This does bother me. But once again - as much as I could and did take my kids anyplace when they were young, and they acted appropriately, I have absolutely no problem with V&A (or other places) having a no child policy - even at WDW. There is nothing wrong with such since there are no end of choices for those who choose to constantly be with their children.
Originally Posted By danyoung >McDonlds 5 stars Jack n' the Box 4 stars KFC 3 stars DQ 2 stars Burger King 1 star< Wow! Not to totally derail this thread, but using your list I'd have to go with - KFC 5 stars Burger King 4 stars Jack n' the Box 3 stars DQ 2 stars McDonalds 1 star But then we're forgetting about Wendy's, Carl's Jr. & my favorite - In & Out!
Originally Posted By nbodyhome >> >> Thanks for explaining the 4/5 stars - I probably couldn't tell the difference between 2 and 5! I just don't dine out very often, and a place like the CA Grill is more like once every couple of years. << Please let me break it down for you Denise! McDonlds 5 stars Jack n' the Box 4 stars KFC 3 stars DQ 2 stars Burger King 1 star << How funny! I completely missed this post until Dan copied it. Okay - I have never been to Jack n the Box, so here is my list: In and Out - 5+++++++ stars. Great service, great presentation, great merchandise, great food. I wish we had them here. (less than 3 more months until I go!) Chik Fi La - 4, It's chicken, it's good, one of my favorites. Love the criss-cross fries! Costco - 3, almost a 4, I like their pizza but mostly I get their berry sundaes. KFC - 2, the Colonel has nothing on Chik Fi La. McD's - 1. I enjoy the burgers occasionally, but In-and-Out it ISN'T. Cool - now I understand the star rating. Thank you MPierce (and Dan for copying, I would have missed it entirely!)
Originally Posted By jonvn "How many people here at LP have had you meal disturbed by a whining, obnoxious, loud 75 year old at WDW, please raise your hand." Sounds like a meal with my parents.
Originally Posted By irishfan I flew from London to Hong Kong today. I was reading Virgin Atlantics onscreen news service, one of the headlines was "Disney bans children from Theme Park restaurant". The article implied that V&A was inside one of the parks.
Originally Posted By nbodyhome Irishfan - that is what the headline I saw said. Like V&A is some family place inside the MK!
Originally Posted By CMDad This is the 178th message in this topic ... and I still don't see that it is such an issue ... V&A should have ALWAYS been no youngsters allowed. Will this rule really ruin so many WDW vacations?
Originally Posted By Mr X Hey, Irishfan, have fun in HK! As for the news and all that, I think it's a case of "damned if you do, damned if you don't" on the part of Disney. Obviously, there were some issues with unruly kids, or they wouldn't have come up with the new rule in the first place! Not everyones' kids are practically perfect, like the kids belonging to some posters here. I, personally, would not be happy to see any young kids in a classy restaurant that I booked and paid top dollar for (sure, they MIGHT be good...but then again most kids aren't).
Originally Posted By Mr X Keeping Disney aside, are there any comparable rules for 5 star restaurants in other cities?
