Originally Posted By pwrof3 The games cast members actually had a say about the new costumes. Basically, the female cms axed the skirt so guacho pants will be used instead. Not very Victorian, eh?
Originally Posted By pwrof3 Yes, games will still be around, but only the four that are open now. There is still a rumor going around that eventually they will all be gone.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt That would be dumb, since they fit the theme perfectly. But of course why they bother with attractions that fit the theme when they can bend and stretch the thematic concepts by squeezing in lucrative character franchises?
Originally Posted By bean well the only reason the games would be removed is to allow access to backstage where other areas behind the coaster have always been considered possible expansion plots for showbuildings. It would be just like Mania. parts of an attraction in front of coaster the main building behind
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt That's fine, I suppose, but if I were to visit a pleasure pier I would expect to find boardwalk games. If they are removed it weakens the story that you are visiting a California seaside amusement pier. Removing them would seem to be a strange thing to do since their placement is so logical.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree that they really do add to the theme (much more than most of what's currently in the area), but there has to be some way to do it without seeming so tacky. Perhaps including a certain number of plays with the park admission or just letting them all be free with smaller prizes. Right now it just feel like a carnival (a classy carnival, but still a carnival). I don't think images of people missing teeth and fingers are what the Imagineers were trying to conjour up with this are.
Originally Posted By bean That is true although many people always felt they did not belong in a Disney park. The one good thing is that right next to these midway games there will be an attraction that incorporates these games with state of the art technology and it cost nothing to guests. That does not mean that a game or two can not be placed randomly in the pier area
Originally Posted By rocket jet Yeah, it seems like Toy Story/Midway Mania will pretty much make the presence of the midway games obsolete. There won't be any need for them because they will already be represented in the form of a ride.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros That's what I thought about BUzz Lightyer Astro Blasters and the Frontierland Shootin Arcade, but we still have both around for some reason.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt A shooting gallery (at least DL's version) makes more sense in Frontierland than Buzz does in Tomorrowland. But that's another discussion.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig Frontierland Shooting gallery is fun and well detailed, with lots of movement. It's a different experience altogether than Buzz, which is fun in its own right, but doesn't provide a reason to get rid of the shooting gallery. My gripe with the boardwalk games is that they were/are routine, pedestrian, boring, undisneyfied, etc. In fact, as designed and implemented, they were even worse than those that were installed at a competitor park, Islands of Adventure. I don't have a problem with having games at Paradise Pier, just make them the best, most creative, highly detailed and unique games on the planet. WDI can do this if they are tasked with that requirement. The games don't have to be exact duplications of the same schlock I see rolling into the county fair just to fit into the theme. They should be fantastic and amazing experiences befitting of a DISNEY version of those types of attractions.
Originally Posted By jonvn It's really easy. Have every game an automatic winner. Allow trade ups from small prizes to larger ones. They do this all the time at these types of games. Then, you're not playing some sleazy game, you're buying a small prize, and playing at a game at the same time which may get you a big prize. Then it's not sleazy. Anyone can get any prize, they just play long enough. This is yet one more no-brainer.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>It's really easy. Have every game an automatic winner. Allow trade ups from small prizes to larger ones. They do this all the time at these types of games. Then, you're not playing some sleazy game, you're buying a small prize, and playing at a game at the same time which may get you a big prize. Then it's not sleazy. Anyone can get any prize, they just play long enough. This is yet one more no-brainer.<<< Fine. Just make the games themselves creative, well detailed, and unique. I'd rather not waste my time playing or even just staring at carnival games that aren't any more unique than the ones at the county fair. But I'll b happy to embrace them if WDI makes them so unique and awesome that just one look at them makes you say "whoa, that's cool", and you immediately want to go play them.
Originally Posted By Nobody An analogy here would be the late "Teddy Beara's Swingin' Arcade". All of the games there were re-workings of old standard games, but there was something more cool about having a bear use a guitar to hit a golf ball where you aim it. They could certainly use their imagination and work some magic on the midway games.
Originally Posted By bean Actually the midway games were pretty much designed to be easily won. If I remember correctly the one for children was made so that every child wins. Two other ones also always have a winner since they are competition between who ever else is playing. They also allow trading smaller gifts for larger ones unless the game already awards you a large prize.
Originally Posted By jonvn "Just make the games themselves creative, well detailed, and unique. " That is harder than changing the rules on who wins, but of course that is always good. "the midway games were pretty much designed to be easily won" They are not easy to win. They don't all do what I say. The children's game does, and as I said, it's a standard practice. All of them should be this way. The ones where there is a competition should be the winner gets the big prize, the losers get a consolation prize. That would make it look a lot more disneyesque and fun for everyone.
