Originally Posted By Mr X ***and the Dems would do the exact same thing had the situation been reversed.*** They might try. But it wouldn't be near as perfectly planned and timed as the GOP machine. They are masters of this game. ***But she did not have a vested interest in one of the people running.*** Nor does she now. She plainly stated that Obama's role in the book is small, and that she hasn't even written his (1) chapter yet. Are you calling her a liar?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <Thanks for posting those articles Tinkerbell. I'll have to look at them later. I do think it was kinda harsh for McCain to have his guys break Ifill's ankle to try to get her to bow out of the debate though. ;-)< maybeNancy Kerrigan can fill in - she's likely free thesedays
Originally Posted By chickendumpling <<maybeNancy Kerrigan can fill in - she's likely free thesedays>> LOL!
Originally Posted By RockyMtnMinnie You can't expect any moderator to be COMPLETELY neutral. They are going to ultimately vote for one of the two after all.
Originally Posted By mawnck Considering that the book in question is apparently about ALL current prominent black politicians, meaning she'd be "unqualified" to moderate ANY political debate involving a black candidate, one could say that these complaints about Ifill are a racist attack. If one was so inclined. ;-)
Originally Posted By dshyates "Do I understand that this stuff started with Michelle Malkin? " She's simply delightful. Someone you want to sip a nice iced chia with.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Do I understand that this stuff started with Michelle Malkin? << Or Jefferson Davis. >>a nice iced chia<< Blehh!
Originally Posted By Disneyland Guest "You can't expect any moderator to be COMPLETELY neutral. They are going to ultimately vote for one of the two after all." True. But I think that there are few moderators out there that are writing books about one or the other right now. "Considering that the book in question is apparently about ALL current prominent black politicians..." I don't think that she was planning on the book being that loooooong. I quote again from the article ""Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama." She focuses on the Democratic nominee and such up-and-coming black politicians...". And don't even go there trying to throw a race card. If you want to have as clean a debate as possible, you have a moderator as far removed from the BOTH of them as possible. That's the facts whether you agree with them or not.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>And don't even go there trying to throw a race card. If you want to have as clean a debate as possible, you have a moderator as far removed from the BOTH of them as possible. That's the facts whether you agree with them or not.<< You Repubs have such a cute little bunch of definitions of the word "facts." It's like a guessing game which one you'll use next. If she does a good job of moderating, I don't care if she's McCain's mother.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***And don't even go there trying to throw a race card.*** Yes, don't you dare! ***If you want to have as clean a debate as possible, you have a moderator as far removed from the BOTH of them as possible.*** Hardly true. If they really wanted THAT, they could bring in a moderator from some other country who knew little about the candidates at all!
Originally Posted By mawnck I will fling as many race cards as require flinging. I don't think this one was deliberate on anyone's part. Just one more inadvertent gaffe from a flailing campaign.
Originally Posted By Disneyland Guest "You Repubs have such a cute little bunch of definitions of the word "facts." It's like a guessing game which one you'll use next." You Dems are in total crisis mode as is represented by the dozens of nasty anti Rep topics started here. So throw your little troll like phrases out there like "Are you calling her a liar" and "You Repubs have such a cute little bunch of definitions of the word "facts." It's like a guessing game which one you'll use next" and "one could say that these complaints about Ifill are a racist attack". If nothing else, they are good for a laugh.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>You Dems are in total crisis mode as is represented by the dozens of nasty anti Rep topics started here. << Actually, this is called "total gloat mode," premature though it may be.
Originally Posted By retlawfan The full title of the book is "Breakthrough: Politics and Race in the Age of Obama". It's publish date is January 20, 2009. Inauguration day. Ifill now stands to personally profit from an Obama presidency. Books about the loser aren't big sellers. If Brit Hume was to write a book about McCain during the campaign, then I would think he shouldn't moderate a debate involving McCain either. Is it so hard to understand this? She should recuse herself, not wait to be removed (well, she should already have done that, or just not accepted the invitation to moderate). The whole process should be kept as transparent as possible.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***You Dems are in total crisis mode*** Yes, with Obama surging and the economy collapsing the liberals are just scared to death. *yawn* ***as is represented by the dozens of nasty anti Rep topics started here*** Most are mine. I don't live in America and I certainly am not "in crisis mode" since the election will affect me not one little bit. I just find the whole story amusing, and I post a lot about it. Nice try though.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***She should recuse herself, not wait to be removed (well, she should already have done that, or just not accepted the invitation to moderate).*** Oh man, that would be crazy wouldn't it?
Originally Posted By mawnck >>She should recuse herself, not wait to be removed<< She ain't gonna, and she ain't gonna. We know poor dumb li'l pit bull with lipstick Sarah just goes to pieces in the face of confrontation, but as a candidate, she's just gonna hafta deal with it, by gosh by golly.
Originally Posted By chickendumpling Gwen Ifill is a professional not some political hack and she is well-qualified to moderate this debate. I can, and do, expect a moderator, this moderator, to be completely objective and completely able to fairly moderate this debate. That's what it means to be a professional. There is nothing in her record to suggest she is "in the tank" for Obama. That she wrote a couple of articles for Essence and is writing a book about "how politics in the black community have changed since the civil rights era" does not imply that. The book apparently also includes discussion of Colin Powell. Does that means she's "in the tank" for Republicans? To see Ifill called into question this way is disturbing. John Quincy Adams said, "All men profess honesty as long as they can. To believe all men honest would be folly. To believe none so is something worse."
