Originally Posted By jmoore1966 Man, Vermont is getting stranger than San Francisco nowadays. There are so many reasons clothing in society is a good idea -- lets not forget hygiene as being a big one. Who wants to sit on a chair after the naked dude?
Originally Posted By jonvn That's a good point. Every chair would be covered in skid marks without clothes.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost The problem is that transient Vermonters, or to be more specific, Flatlanders, are preaching an ultra-liberal lifestyle (not necessarily political) in a very conservative native population. Those two opinions are always going to clash. The difference with Vermont is that we have, for some reason strange to me, a need to be the first at everything free spirited. Most of that reputation is a good thing but occasionally it creates a situation that is very uncomfortable for many people. I'm not talking about bigoted things but things like nudity in public that doesn't limit itself to any racial or ethnic profile. We as a population are pretty tolerant of most all behavior including walking down Main Street naked but draw the line at feeling that this should be a legally supported venture. It is a novelty on occasion and one that we would and do chuckle about but don't tell us it is alright to stomp on other peoples rights just so someone can have their jollies. Aya, just ain't gonna be happnin up he-yea, by the Gees! Besides the winter is way to cold for sustained nudidididy. Why we'd have our own Blue Men Group here all winter. Aya!
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost To put this all into perspective one must remember that Vermont still has a law on the books that states that "it is illegal to whistle under water". Don't ask me to explain it, I wouldn't know where to start.
Originally Posted By jmoore1966 <<Besides the winter is way to cold for sustained nudidididy. Why we'd have our own Blue Men Group here all winter. Aya!>> Not to mention all the guys would be like George Costanza in the "shrinkage" episode.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight (Shudders at the thought of plastic slip covers over everything. ) They want a nudie town .. let em build one. Then only the nudie's and nudie lovers have to be there. Seems pretty simple eh? * sing to the tune of Funky Town* Won't you take me doooown.. to Nudie toooown..... sing it with me..
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I spent a couple weeks in Vermont during the summer of 1972 with my girlfriend (her home was in Vermont). It was one bizarre place. Lots of parties. Lots of drinking. Lots of drugs. Lots of nudity. It was one helluva time... at least the parts that I remember. Her home was Killington Vermont, which is a big ski area. Many folks there… especially young folks, make almost all of their income during the ski season and then spend the rest of the year partying. Man, we would start early in the evening and go from one party to the next until 5 AM the next morning. That wasn't always easy because the roads up there were two lanes, tight and twisting. You navigated by using landmarks like "Porsche Corner"; locations where there had been ‘famous’ accidents. Now before you get all up in arms remember that this was 35 years ago. Back then drunk driving was fine as long as you didn't kill anyone. If you were stopped in a small town like Killington where everyone knew everyone, you would be give a ride home rather than arrested. Man, oh man... I had almost forgotten the time I spent that one summer in Vermont. That was MY "Woodstock Experience".
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>Not to mention all the guys would be like George Costanza in the "shrinkage" episode.<<< Something I certainly could afford to have happen. If things diminish any further I will have a second navel.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost Couldn't afford...couldn't. Ah, my kingdom for an edit feature. Ruined my own joke. Probably be admin'd anyway. Trippy, Vermont in the 70's was a virtual haven for Woodstock wanna be's. Every rural, remote area and tourist area had them by the thousands. Communes as far as the eye could see. They did eventually figure out the man could not live by hemp alone and went out and got a job and a shiny new BMW.
Originally Posted By Lady Starlight OMG I had a visual LOL!!(I actually felt my ears get hot)... A mushroom in a furr forest! *walks away laughin and shakin her head*.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip >>>Not to mention all the guys would be like George Costanza in the "shrinkage" episode.<<< If you give it a nice good tug the results of shrinkage can be reversed rather quickly. You always want to do that when you step out of the shower just in case you wife comes in to the bathroom. Wives should never have to see shrinkage. ;-)
Originally Posted By gadzuux I remember hearing about this town some time ago, and it's predominantly a "youth" thing. People don't usually find young people offensive to look at. And ome people are resentful of the government telling them what to do. Still others expect everyone on the entire planet to adhere to their particular code of conduct. <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/02/ap/strange/mainD8JSVAQ80.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.cbsnews.com/stories /2006/09/02/ap/strange/mainD8JSVAQ80.shtml</a> Nude Teens Raising Eyebrows in Vermont Nude teenagers test the limits in bohemian southern Vermont town BRATTLEBORO, Vt., Sep. 2, 2006 By LISA RATHKE Associated Press Writer (AP) Nudity isn't new here. Usually it bares itself in more subtle places than a downtown parking lot, though. This summer, a group of teenagers has disrobed near restaurants, bookstores and galleries, igniting a debate about whether this bohemian southern Vermont town should ban a practice that has been tolerated until now. By most accounts, the stripping started on a whim in early summer when a young woman sat naked on a park bench, Martin said. Then another woman started taking her shirt off downtown. A music festival promoting nudity and rebelliousness set up in May in a downtown parking lot and attracted nude hula hoopers, Martin said. Last month, a half dozen young people bared their bodies in the lot, encircled by the backs of bookstores, coffee shops and restaurants. They say they're just exercising their rights. "It's just an act of freedom," said 19-year-old Adhi Palar. "We're just doing so because we can." Palar and the others "do not consider nakedness to be innately sexual or rude and it shouldn't be confined to that," he said. All the bare skin has raised eyebrows, even in a town that has seen clothing-optional swimming holes, streakers and an event known as "Breast Fest," which featured women parading topless. To some, a bunch of teenagers going au naturel is just harmless rebellion. "To most people, it's not a big deal," said Catherine Kauffman, 57, who calls Brattleboro "a don't-take-away-too-many-of-my-rights kind of town." Rich Geidel, 50, co-owner of Everyone's Books, said the parking lot may not be the most appropriate place for nudity, but he said he's not concerned. "We don't think it's bad for kids to hang out," he said. "As long as people are polite, don't block the entrance, we don't ask them to leave." To others, it's disturbing. Some worry it could drive business away from downtown. "It's a bad image for Brattleboro," said Ozzie Kocaoglu, 43, who owns Sundried Tomato restaurant at the far end of the parking lot, which has long been a teen hangout. Vermont has no state laws against public nudity, but communities can pass their own rules banning it. Baring it all as a form of social protest is growing. This summer, nude bicyclists rode through Burlington to protest the country's reliance on oil, part of an event known as the World Naked Bike Ride. Elsewhere, nudity has been used to oppose the Iraq war and the treatment of animals. In Vermont, voters in another town shot down a ban on nudity after two public votes. Prompted by complaints about nudity and sexual activity at a swimming hole, the Wilmington select board passed an anti-nudity ordinance in 2002. But supporters of the freedom to skinny dip rejected the ban. "There were some ugly moments in the debate with some name calling and lots of good healthy debate about reasonable rights and responsibility under those rights," said Town Clerk Susie Haughwout. Officials weren't sure how they would have enforced a ban and to what extent, she said. For now Brattleboro is weighing its options. And waiting for summer to turn to fall. "As soon as winter comes, there won't be a story anymore," said Town Clerk Annette Cappy.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<A music festival promoting nudity and rebelliousness set up in May in a downtown parking lot and attracted nude hula hoopers, Martin said.>> Oh my God. Nude hula hoopers. If I ever saw that my life would be complete. Young people. Old people. Fat people. Thin people. Women. Men. Each of them, through the process of hula hooping, jiggling that part of their anatomy that jiggled the best! It would be BEAUTIFUL!!! Men and Women of every age, race and religion jiggling their naughty bits in perfect precision. It just couldn't get any better than that. LOL ;-)
Originally Posted By DVC_dad If you give it a nice good tug the results of shrinkage can be reversed rather quickly. You always want to do that when you step out of the shower just in case you wife comes in to the bathroom. Yeah tell me about it! My middle school son is full speed into puberty and wow, what must my wife think? She says he takes after her side of the family. *sigh* My life, (and confidence) will never be the same!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip ^^^ I've gone back to mid-rise briefs just because they are so much more comfortable (in my opinion). But a guy tends to look MUCH more impressive in boxer briefs. The first time my wife saw me in bb's she kind of gasped and said "Oh my goodness." Goodness had nothing to do with it!! LOL
Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF >>Wives should never have to see shrinkage.<< If they don't like it, they can remedy it themselves!
Originally Posted By vbdad55 < an event known as "Breast Fest," which featured women parading topless. < and they think pirates and princess party hard ticket event tickets sell well -- now we're talking here