Originally Posted By mousermerf Epcot's central viewing location, which doubles as a "stage" during the daytime in "Showcase Plaza" has both sitting and standing area. Essentially, if you're in the front portion it's sitting-room-only with all the areas behind it being standing-room-only. They always enforce the sitting-only area, and only open it when wind conditions permit, but the remaining standing area depends on the crowds - once Disney feels the crowds are large enough they start asking people to stand to allow more people into the area. Both opening of sitting-room and the forced "you must stand in this area" happen during the last 20mins leading up to showtime.
Originally Posted By jbkuchon hey mousermerf, why do you never respond to me when I speak to you directly? (waiting for no reply)
Originally Posted By jbkuchon hey mousermerf, why do you never respond to me when I speak to you directly? (waiting for no reply)
Originally Posted By mousermerf As for restrooms - Showcase Plaza is the about the same size as DCA's new viewing area from what I can tell. Showcase Plaza's nearest restrooms are behind it to the right, over by Canada. Not close really at all. But if you look at it compared to DCA, it's about the same distance to the restroom block by the Mermaid building.
Originally Posted By mousermerf jbkuchon - Conversation is a give/take process and has rules of decorum. To my knowledge, the only times you've directly addressed me is to demand personal information which is, to put it bluntly, none of your business. I don't read everything on the forums, nor do I expect everything I write to be read. If I have inadvertently missed an appropriate inquiry, I do apologize. I've taken the stance of generally ignoring "newbies" due to past interactions where they've felt compelled to demand information from me - even at times refusing to look up basic information on their own because it's just easier to ask me for the answer.
Originally Posted By jbkuchon mousermerf, well firstly, I have said plenty of "appropriate" things to you and haven't gotten a response. I've also said a couple of things jokingly to you in the hopes of having fun and making you (or others) laugh which is just kind of how I am. I like to make jokes. I like to make things a little lighter and funner. On the flip side however, I do like to ask information at times in the hopes of trying to sort everyone out and get an idea in my head of who I'm talking to. Being a "newbie" it's easy to get all of the people confused with others and if I have something to put with a name it just makes it easier to remember next time I see a post by the same person. Like "Oh mousermerf, he's the guy who use to work at Epcot and now lives in the LA area." So most of the time when I say things you think are inappropriate it's a mix of trying to make you laugh or/and trying to get to know you better. Some people respond better to my style of humor than others and in return I get to know them a lot better much quicker. Some just don't prefer my style and don't think I'm funny, which is fine. I realize that and am okay with it. I knew you'd say exactly what you said in that post above. I had a feeling you were reacting negatively to my attempts at joking around with you. And that's another potential outcome to my joking around/trying to get to know you better, it also helps me to realize the people that don't enjoy me or my humor. So I can take that into consideration and keep my distance since you prefer that. I'm sorry to have offended you, I'll do what I can to avoid that in the future.
Originally Posted By jbkuchon Actually I've found that people tend to either love me or hate me, lol. Odd. There is no middle ground with me. And while I realize this and am okay with it, I have to admit it does sting a bit. Makes a little boo boo on my heart :, ( I mean come on what's not to love?!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But they weren't herded, nay, pushed in like sardines in a viewing stadium/area for a brand new show at which viewing space is at a premium." Wait, I thought this show was going to be visible from pretty much anywhere around the lagoon. Yes, the area directly in front will be the premium spot, but I don't see why someone couldn't stand behind it and see it too. I prefer to watch the DL fireworks from Main Street, but plenty of people seem just fine watching them from other spots in the park.
Originally Posted By Jenn31 I've thought of this too and I'll use fantasmic as a prime example: crowd control isn't going to let anyone stand outside the "stadium" and watch the show. If they do that'd be fantastic! Would solve a lot of problems, but, not very likely.
Originally Posted By Jenn31 jbkuchon, "fantasmic is standing room only" Which show are you going to? I'm curious because the shows at DL and WDW are both seated shows. I'm guessing you're getting to the show late and have to stand further down the rivers of america away from the main show area?
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I had the same question, Jenn31, duckling. Fantasmic can be watched while sitting. It doesn't sound as thoug the World of Color Show will have that option. Therefore it really can't be compared to watching parades, fireworks or Fantasmic. Those 3 other shows allow for people to roam around and leave the area more readily than World of Color seems to be planned for. World of Color will mean you're stuck right where you are until after the show is over--unless they're coming up with a plan to address that very issue that we don't yet know about.
Originally Posted By Ohana Fantasmic DL is not a "seated" show. there are many areas that you have to stand.
Originally Posted By Jenn31 Where?^^^^ Not directly in front, do you mean down river and off to the sides?
Originally Posted By jbkuchon Other than maybe 10 people watching Fantasmic at DL that are lucky enough to get a bench, you have to stand at fantasmic, where are there seats?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss I think the question is: does Disney call Fantasmic! a standing room only show? I'm not sure why everyone is getting so worked up over how WOC will be viewed. Can't we all just wait and see what actually happens, instead of getting worked up over perhaps nothing?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros The lowest tier of the Fantasmic! area is sitting room. I'm not sure about the middle layer, but I believe that is standing room, and I know for sure that the third layer and beyond (POTC bridge, that raised section by Cafe Orleans, etc) are standing room only. If you're able to get a seated spot, it's fantastic, but if you're in one of the standing areas you will be smushed in like you wouldn't believe. I know it's done so they can have better crowd flow through there (since the walkways cut directly through the viewing areas), but it does seem a little rediculous at times. I'm expecting that something similar will be done for WOC once they try it out with real people. I would expect that the first couple of tiers would be sitting space and the back few would standing room. While you can fit more people in standing, 2/3 of them won't be able to see a thing (especially since they will be looking down at the foundtains instead of up at the sky like the fireworks). I don't know if this is going to be taken into consideration, but since the show will be something you're supposed to watch, I would hope they might think about that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <"Or even how good the view is?" You can see the view here... scroll halfway down the page:> That view doesn't look all that good to me. If you're right up against the railing, sure. But unless they have terracing work yet to be done, it seems like the people more than a few rows back would have trouble seeing much of anything. I thought they'd create a nice viewing area for guests of their most expensive hotel, but maybe that photo is deceiving.
Originally Posted By Jenn31 I really hope Disney is looking at all of these things, especially the comfort of guests and not just looking at how many bodies can pass through each show.
