Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Yep, FP is totally evil. I use it of course, because you are almost forced to. But I know at DLP for example, during EMH FP is not used, and Buzz, Space Mountain and Peter Pan are fab. But then once the FPs go on, they are excrutiating in the standbys. Disney pre FP was great - lines continued to move; misters and air con were used; queues were themed; and there was often live entertainment near the biggest lines. To me that was far better than what we have today.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I once escorted a couple of Mentally Delayed brothers to Florida. We went on the ride and, not thinking, I forgot to mention that it wasn't real to the boys, well men actually. In the middle of the ride I happened to look at them and the fear in their expressions were shocking. I quickly told them it wasn't real and their normal complexion returned. I felt bad about that, but later they were able to laugh about it. << Is this serious? Never heard of "mentally delayed". Is that a new one?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>I knew you would have the answer EE.<<<<< If we had a college class on WDW, I'd be golden. ;-)
Originally Posted By leobloom I won't wait in the stand-by line for a ride that has FP. Simple as that. Either FP or skip it. The few times I've broken that rule, I've regretted it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yeah, but how do you get FPs for all of them? That's a struggle in itself. I go to WDW to walk around at my leisure, not hit a series of checkpoints. LOL
Originally Posted By leobloom Well, I'm not likely to ride every FP ride in one day. If my group gets FPs for one ride, we hang around the area until our time comes up. I think if you know how to use the system, you can make it work to your advantage. But I'll also admit that my group never tries to do every single thing in the park. We're perfectly happy to skip many of the attractions since we've seen and done everything multiple times. That's the advantage to having stale theme parks: we don't feel particularly rushed to do what we've done before.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Yeah, but how do you get FPs for all of them? That's a struggle in itself. I go to WDW to walk around at my leisure, not hit a series of checkpoints. LOL>> I've done it before. IDK how the hell I did it, but I've done it.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Well, I do a day a park, so there goes that plan, unless Hokie remembers. LOL
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I just think it was one of those insanely long days where I got there at opening and stayed till close.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 That VBDAD sure is buff. --- ooh those days have been a while- but we are working hard on it at present...funny how much tougher it gets each decade to bring oneself back around after letting things go.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> I just think it was one of those insanely long days where I got there at opening and stayed till close.<<< We only do that for EPCOT, these days.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Then when you see someone go ahead you know that they paid for that privilege and it makes it a little easier to accept, in my mind. ----- explain that feeling to the many families that scrape together jut enough money to go once or twice in a lifetime then have to explain to their kids why fat wallets go first... I can afford it and would likely pay for it if Disney instituted because I have gotten so used to fastpass -- but really for all the bitcin that goes on here about Disney gouging guests- what would people call this ? I know - it's Uni so it's smart not gouging..
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I did hate to see Kong turned into a coaster type attraction since Ann (and Rose before her) won't do coasters. It means one fewer attraction I can experience with my wife. ---- I thought Kong was just excellent-- unfortunately it seemed to be down more often than it was up -- when one did get to ride it I liked the experience
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I think we would all be impressed with the rides and attractions for WDW the imagineers would come up with if for example they were given the budget Disney is spending on new DVC properties. If only! --- If the cash flow remotely resembled it- you would
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Disney pre FP was great - lines continued to move; misters and air con were used; queues were themed; and there was often live entertainment near the biggest lines. To me that was far better than what we have today. ---- if all of your trips to WDW were in summer because kids are in school and unlike our Euro friends- on holiday is not a 7-8 weeka year deal... you would feel different. The lines NEVER moved quickly as you stood in 100 degree heat index day after day... I did this for 20 years....
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I love Space Mountain.>> I loved it when it was a great, cutting edge ride experience ... say in the 70s or 80s! <<Although I shouldn't seeing as it seems like it wants to stop me from reproducing.>> I truly thought I had tore a muscle down below after riding it last week. I should have gone to City Hall and started hurling f-bombs and demanded a free $5K vacation. ... Pathetic, but that seems to work for trash that feels wronged because it rained or there were lines.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> I thought you didn't swim at WDW because VBDAD looked better than you in an Ariel two-piece and you got your feathers all ruffled ... << <<Well that did have a lot to do with it. That VBDAD sure is buff.>> Don't you mean 'buffalo' as Mrs. VBDAD has grown fond of calling him?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> But my point, dear old minion, is that I really see Disney pandering and positioning its product toward folks who have mental issues (I just love how this is gonna sound on a discussion board). I guess a better way to say it may be Disney is exploiting a very frayed segment of our society who feel the need to retreat to a childhood that never was and never will be. ;-) << <<If someone doesn't want a week of escapism these days they do have mental issues.>> Escapism is fine ... it's great actually. But that's not exactly what I meant. I think you needed to be on my tranatlantic DCL sailing last year to get what I am saying. There's escaping ... and then there's out of touch with reality before you ever breathe in the first dose of pixie dust. <<I see nothing wrong in trying to escape back to the fond memories of your childhood with Disney. Even if they don't exist quite the way you remember them. With the number of guest Disney is bringing in, I would suggest that a lot of folks feel that way also.>> Agreed with the caveat above ... I do wish we were having this discussion over drinks at the Territory Lounge, though. I'm not sure my real point is getting through and not sure I can state it here in a way that won't start a flame war errupting when I don't have the time or energy for one ...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The lines NEVER moved quickly as you stood in 100 degree heat index day after day...>> Funny, I stood in line for Forbidden Journey 8 times this summer and the line never stopped once, save for the time it went 101 and some idiot called the fire department. If the ride was in Disney, I'd have waited at least twice as long because the line would stop every time we moved a foot to let the fastpass people though.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Sometimes it is good to be so busy that catching up on 166 posts is a great bedtime story. I wonder who will portray Spirit and Pierce and Davewasbaloo in the movie version? Of course EM gets to be the major star! << <<I think Charlie Sheen would play a perfect Spirit.>> WINNING!!! ~Pass The tiger blood ... and the pixie dust!~
