Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The brilliant political cartoonist for the Minneapolis Star-Tribune Steve Sack had a cartoon with an NRA spokesman addressing the press. "Instead of new gun laws, the government should focus on enforcing the laws we already have!" the NRA fellow is saying. Someone in the press asks, "And what will YOU focus on?" The NRA spokesman replies "Getting rid of the laws we already have."
Originally Posted By 182 People have the misinformed idea that we are all carring M16 when on base.The trueth is you turn your weapon in when returning to base.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>The trueth is you turn your weapon in when returning to base.<< Mmm hmmm. And just why is that, do you suppose?
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "People have the misinformed idea that we are all carring M16 when on base." Some people have the misinformed idea that it is okay to carry bulletproof vests off base, too.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Some people have the misinformed idea that it is okay to carry bulletproof vests off base, too.<< We have a winner...
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 This is what is killing me about the argument about guns will prevent more deaths.. That is some complete and utter BS statement. Look at what happened in NY earlier this year when trained police officers got into a shootout with an armed suspect.. <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/justice/new-york-empire-state-shooting/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/25/...dex.html</a> 9 people wounded, ALL wounded by cops and not the shooter himself... More guns at schools and other public venues will mean more innocent lives lost... Screw the NRA....
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 BTW, today I have gone from sitting on the fence on the gun control issue to being firmly behind stricter gun control and taxes on ammo and guns. The NRA has convinced me through their press conference that they have no idea what they are talking about...
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 And the sad thing is the the Onion could just print this story as it appears.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Was anyone else thinking of this guy? <a href="http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic/gallery/9321_view.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.palzoo.net/file/pic...view.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By TomSawyer "Whats wrong with having a MTV (Modular Tactical Vest) honestly ????" Nothing, if you paid for it yourself and weren't supposed to turn it back in at the end of your service.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 A vest for who Donny? Teachers? Students? Trying using the gray stuff inbetween your ears once in awhile.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox If you listen closely enough to a-hats like LaPierre, you'll hear the same type of weasel-like justifications that were being spewed by the pro-tobacco lobby in the fifties and sixties when the connection between smoking and lung cancer crystalized. Big Tobacco did its best to vilify the scientific data and convince the public that smoking was perfectly harmless. And pretty much came off looking like the d-bags connected with Big Guns and their flying monkeys in the NRA. They're in it for the money. Nothing else.
Originally Posted By 182 All three of my children have taken Hunters and Basic gun saftey,my wife and I both took concealed weapons training and I can tell you the tactic that you learn in the military are very different then the ones you use in the real world. I can't say I agree with everything the N.R.A. stands for but for the very most part the N.R.A. is a positive in many lives.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Especially in Sandy Hook. They are having a great Christmas there this year.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Whats wrong with having a MTV (Modular Tactical Vest) honestly ????" Does the constant rhythmic noise coming from the paranoid echo chamber of Fox's talking heads ever give you a headache? Where do you live that you need an MTV man, Tunisia? Uganda? Seriously. Is there an island somewhere we can politely send the all the people in this country who constantly stand in the way of progress? The ones who dig in their heels the minute anyone even utters the words "raise taxes on the rich", "gun control", "Barack Obama', or "gay marriage"? Soon there will be commercial flights to the Moon... so maybe we can ferry them there to build their own nation of paranoid freedom loving gun toting wingnuts. I'm envisioning Sarah Palin in a snug silvery spacesuit as their queen, with lots of churches (and guns!) everywhere, and a Confederate flag billowing in the solar wind.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Honestly if the Wayne LaPierre would have just urinated on all the graves that would have been less offensive to me that what he said.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Big deal, Donny. I started target shooting with my parents when I was six years old. My mom had a sweet single barrel pump shotgun called a 'Lady Remington' with very little recoil. (Yeah, I kid you not. This was before the name became synonymous with shaving leg hair.) I went quail hunting in the desert with my dad each year, and tried trap & skeet when I was older. (I sucked at it.) The difference between your kids and my childhood are the people introducing the guns and their attitudes about the world. Introducing guns to kids shouldn't involve prepper rhetoric or doom & gloom attitudes such as you continue to demonstrate for us on these boards. I can't imagine that this isn't also part of their 'education' regarding firearms, knowing how you think about the world and people not like you. I grew up with guns being a part of my life, but there was NO WAY IN HELL that my dad would ever consider carry & conceal. The guns were kept in a locked metal storage box without the ammo, which was kept in another part of the house in small quantity. My dad would typically purchase his ammo before going shooting and buy only what he believed he needed for the day. And we lived on the outside edge of a very small town in the desert. We would occasionally find pumas sleeping in the shade of our trees during the summer months, but my dad still would not keep a loaded weapon at hand. He knew it would be asking for trouble. Point is, the NRA back in those days was a totally different organization. My dad was a member, obviously. And the local chapter held gun safety and general info events for free several times a year, as a community service. Local chapters in today's NRA might also do the same, but there's another darker side to the organization that didn't exist way back in the sixties when my dad was a member. For any 'good' it might be doing today, it does far, FAR more damage overall. Same could also be stated for the GOP, which was also a different organization back then. What a surprise that as the GOP went to the dark side, so did the NRA.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 If you support the NRA as it stands right now, then you support domestic terrorism.