Originally Posted By ecdc See, if only the cops in Georgia had been armed and trained in the use of.... Oh, right. Well clearly the solution here is an armed guard in every church, home, roadside, nightclub, parking lot, apartment, bike trail, bodega, motel, and Ohio.
Originally Posted By dshyates I was out covering the body found on Bike Trail story. Jovan Sconiers was found dead on a bike trail here in Orlando.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I was in a mall today doing some 11th hour Christmas shopping and saw tons of kids around 6 or 7 years old and couldn't help getting misty eyed thinking about the families who lost their children in Sandy Hook. It's just awful to think about. I also read today that liberal loudmouth Al Sharpton has pledged to mount a series of protests against the gun lobby and challenging Congress to pass a ban on assault weapons. I've never been a fan of Sharpton, but I found myself nodding in agreement with his remarks today. “We need to get a real movement against those who get rich off the perpetuation of killing. The only purpose of assault weapons is for war. You don’t hunt with assault weapons. Nobody shoots down prey with so many bullets you couldn’t eat the prey.” <a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/sharpton-vows-mount-gun-protests-article-1.1226052" target="_blank">http://www.nydailynews.com/new....1226052</a>
Originally Posted By ecdc These days I see a lot of, "I'm not a fan of Al Sharpton, but..." I'm pretty sure I've even said it myself. I think he's really come along way from the bloated, bloviating "reverend" of the '80s. Sure, he's just another liberal boilerplate commentator, but occasionally with good insights and picking the right causes to fight for.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Not saying post 80 isn't disturbing but just wondering how many of those are your gang/drug deal/robbery type of shootings
Originally Posted By ecdc <a href="http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/12/the-nra-and-the-positive-good-of-maximum-guns/266571/" target="_blank">http://www.theatlantic.com/nat.../266571/</a> Here's a great article on the insatiability of the NRA and their agenda to get guns in every single corner of American life.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Columbine shows why armed security would not work. <a href="http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2012/12/21/columbine_armed_guard_colorado_shooting_shows_that_nra_s_shield_program.html" target="_blank">http://www.slate.com/blogs/the...ram.html</a>
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Have you guys been following David Frum's articles about the need for gun control at all? Now there is a sensible conservative (Tea Party types would call him a RINO I'm sure). He is angry, and what the U.S. needs is enough angry conservatives like him out there who still have a thought in their heads not put there by Fox News.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Another excellent Slate piece that gets into the psychology of gun ownership by a woman who was into them big time: <a href="http://mobile.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/12/why_did_nancy_lanza_love_guns_i_bet_i_know.html" target="_blank">http://mobile.slate.com/articl...now.html</a>
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/22/politics/gun-debate/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/22/...pt=hp_t1</a> Rather than re-think his stance, LaPierre has doubled down, as they say, on his opinion. There aren't sufficient words to describe this person's flaws. Anyone who agrees with him is also equally lacking in the basic human make-up.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney From the above article: ""The NRA spokespeople have been willing to deal with every possible cause of gun violence, except guns." -- Lieberman. "New York's tabloids, normally political polar opposites, offered the same take: The Daily News' headline called LaPierre the "Craziest Man on Earth," while Rupert Murdoch's New York Post ran with, "Gun Nut! NRA loon in bizarre rant over Newtown.""
Originally Posted By DyGDisney And the worst idea proposed in the article; "CNN iReporter Jason Asselin applauded the NRA's stance, proposing that U.S. troops returning from war zones could serve as armed guards." Yeah, nothing could go wrong there because troops who have been off in battle NEVER come back emotionally scarred or in need of emotional/mental assistance.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Yeah, nothing could go wrong there because troops who have been off in battle NEVER come back emotionally scarred or in need of emotional/mental assistance. << LOL! What an idea. I can see the soldiers from Apocalypse Now returning to patrol schools. "I love the smell of napalm in the cafeteria!"
Originally Posted By ecdc After seeing Meet the Press today, I'm converting to Mawnckism. We. Are. So. Screwed. Watching Harold Ford and Jason Chaffetz talk about how armed guards in schools aren't a terrible idea...wow. Listening to Lindsay Graham talk about how the assault weapons ban did no good....wow. Seeing as how these are the people who will actually be voting for this...wow.
Originally Posted By ecdc >>aren't a terrible idea<< That also aren't terrible grammar. I sound like a right-wing gun owner.
Originally Posted By dshyates I am in a bit of a quandary here in that I don't think that having our schools guarded is a terrible idea given where we are at as a society. I don't think that is "the answer". But a small piece of the puzzle. I am not sure if you guys are aware of this but there have been Sheriff's Deputies guarding our schools for years. I really have no problem guarding our valuables. I wish that we were not at this point, but isn't that what our police forces are for? I am NOT in favor of arming teachers, principles, school administrators. They aren't trained for that. Let our teaching professionals teach and the security professionals secure. We also need to ban assault weapons and ultra capacity magazines, fully fund our mental healthcare system, and have more diligent background checks. And has anyone noticed that a drug screening is NOT currently part of the background checks. Given that it is plainly obvious that our schools are a target, we need to guard them.
Originally Posted By dshyates And for those that disagree about guarding our schools, I'm listening, what's your solution?
