Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>As far as davewasbaloo is concerned, well what do you expect out of a Tory turncoat. I've heard from reliable sources that every night he practices his British accent in front of a mirror while wearing a Derby hat.<<< HAH! You owe me a new keyboard...this one is soggy. >>>>I sent you that Palin 2012 T with her picture on it in the hope that it would help calm your racing heart, and sweaty palms every time you see her on television.. However, I feel it has only contributed to those delusional fantasys you have of her. I also don't think it's healthy that you have all of her speeches recorded, and lay awake at night listening to them, and doing what ever it is that you do.<<<< Well, he HAS had dinner with her already.... And back to WDW, we go. Question, though, guys...Are they dropping WWYC in favor this new "give a day" thing...Does that mean no craptastic banners and no mono puke? Hope so, I'll look forward to that. Maybe they'll kill off BAH, while they are at it. Speaking of things to be killed off...How's about those tarps in EC and the rebranding off Innoventions. They've been keeping it low key and quiet, but I have heard rumbles...
Originally Posted By mousermerf There are always banners - they just change what they look like from year to year. Innoventions West is getting a new exhibit. I think it belongs to IBM, but whatever it is its going where Thinkamajig used to be. Otherwise, it's quiet. Some chatter says Jungle Cruise will be updated, but I dunno, i have my doubts.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I just wish we had more concerned posters like you Phil. You know, like people who actually contributed to the LP forums. the phrase- 'dripping with sarcasm' comes to mind
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Innoventions West is getting a new exhibit. I think it belongs to IBM, but whatever it is its going where Thinkamajig used to be. so that's where my raise went ?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Well, thanks for showing me I have been right in not wasting my money in Florida. If some of those things are 2 years old now (see how bored I am of WDW, I stopped watching it like a hawk, it was too painful.>> I knew I shouldn't have posted this. I actually WANT you to come to FLA, Dave. Miss ya and since we didn't connect in Paris last month, not sure when we might. Besides, WDW is at the very least tolerable when the Spirit moves ya! ;-) <<But it is a sad state of affairs. People are getting excited about the possible return of Eo again in DL, and all the attractions on the slate (no matter how impressive the tech of WOC or Mermaid is, toons now bore me to tears and we now have 20 somethings than now think Disney is only about toons, so I do not see this turning around soon.>> I can't believe (of course I can but ... you need some hyperbole) that Disney is dumb enough to bring back a 20-something year old film that was good for its time, but not even exceptional then. And with the way MJ's life fell apart ... I can't get why Disney sees a fit for this even in Anaheim (they'll never bring it back in O-Town). I can't help but think that all the $$$ that 'This Is It' is bringing in for Sony has Iger and Rasulo's heads spinning. But the domestic numbers aren't all that good and do you really want poor George K talking to the media about why a tragic (although greatly talented) figure who had numerous allegations involving sexual 'issues' with minors is being showcased at DLR? <<I am still trying to get a new hobby, but I keep getting sucked back in by the drug that is Disney. I want to see it get better, though Iger has made me lose a lot of hope (though the new Cruise Ship, HKDL expansion, Steve Davison's enthusiastic pitch for WOC and even DVC Hawaii show me they can still do it - but none of that is in the rube trap that is WDW).>> I can't disagree there. The new ship looks great, even if I've been told by folks in the business that the shipyard building the Dream is known for 'building on the cheap' and 'undercutting the competition' (direct quotes from an expert). WoC will be phenomenal. If you can get past the zillions of APers with no lives who will show up every night. HKDL is pretty damn terrific right now ... and the additions (TSL aside) really look great too. I'd go back tomorrow. And DVC in Oahu? Any excuse to be in Hawaii is a good one. Oh, and Honor Hunter's bothans have apparently told him that Shanghai will be announed officially next week. I have no such info. Anyone want to page Leemac to the thread?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<74, you already started this same pointless, idiotic argument at WDWMagic. Button your lip and get a life, you ever-lasting pessimist!>> Hey Phil, do you ever post here when you aren't taking a shot at me? Why don't you grow up and offer something intelligent to the conversation or at least have the smarts to say nothing at all? <<And that goes for you too, Davewasbaloo.>> Yeah. You tell him. Dave's a damn pinko Commie too. We ran him out of the USA because he actually thinks everyone should be entitled to health care. He even uses non-words like 'whilst' ... yep he's a Crazy Commie!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I love how this thread has 7 posts here and upwards of 45 at 30 at WDWMagic. >> When last I checked the count was closing in on 150 there. Many showing love for yours truly. Fanbois love me ... they really, really love me. <<However....I'm thinking next year is a quite year. As Martin said over in Magicland, we will be getting some more annoucements...ANd ones reggarding the 40th. Something that gets me excited, to be honest with you. (Not bulge worthy, Spirit, let's direct our attention else where. )>> I'll believe it when I hear it, or someone I trust tells me something's coming. Thus far, crickets. <<The 40th, while not being as big as it once was, could still be a unique opportunity for the parks. While I don't think we will be getting 4 E-tics, like we once were, I do think some smaller things will get the greenlight. Maybe Soarin'. Maybe SSE, even. Anything and everything is marketable, and since these "Anniversaries" are just big marketing ploys, I think that these things COULD be marketed. AKA...There will be pins and promos. But that's in 2011...Starting in 2010. In the meantime..? No idea. I guess SM Clean will be the new draw.>> Like I said, nothing. Maybe new cup and napkin design. And I'm sure we'll get endless construction pics from the folks who live in the parks and think that 28 pics of the same construction somehow tell a story better than 1 or 2.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I'd be really curious to know what percentage of guests vists WDW more than once every couple of years. Living in Florida I don't expect there to be something new every time I go to the parks. (I might get into one of the parks once or twice a year.) Now, it had been several years since my last visit to Universal and there was qutie a lot of "new" stuff since then. I guess what I'm getting at is...well...what is reasonable in terms of "new"?>> I just look at the big picture, wahoo. Four major parks. What has been added in say the last five years (because contrary to some opinions I am in no way suggesting Disney add E-Tix to each park every year or even one park every year)? The only major (from a cost standpoint) addition in the last three or four years was Everest. Then, we have two 'medium' additions in Idol and TSMM at TPFKaTD-MGMS (and Freemantle picked up a large chunk of Idol's tab). But what about things like seasonal overlays? Phil Holmes killed Country Bears Christmas and made sure NBC overlay for Mansion would never happen. They also haven't ever shown an interest in Small World Holiday. And despite the WDI line about TSMM being able to easily program Halloween or Christmas versions, you can see that's happening like the tales of reprogramming Star Tours and Body Wars did. There's been no new pyro shows. No new parades. MK has 1991 and 2001 era parades. Illuminations, Wishes and Fantasmic are all growing long in the tooth. And new stage shows? They don't even exist in FLA anymore. So, it isn't just adding major E-Tix. But it's adding a mix of new attractions (major and minor), new shows, parades and pyro, seasonal events/overlays and even opening new dining and shopping venues in the parks. That all adds up to freshness. Of course, then you have the alleged No. 1 theme park in the world, which hasn't seen a new E-Ticket addition since 1992. Any rational person might think that it was time for another about a decade ago. And I don't believe Mermaid is that level, despite how PR is spinning it.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<But do most guests who scrimp and save really see the watered down product the way we do?>> More than you or TDO thinks ... I've overheard plenty of conversations or intiated them for some consulting of my own. <<My guess is, no, and that is how they continue to get away with it.>> The fundamental issue is Disney has been conditioning guests for years now to accept a vastly lower quality, less layered/deep, product as being Disney quality. Us 'oldtimers' (hate that term but 'purists' is even worse) know damn well that the Disney of 2009 isn't the Disney of 1989. That's why I've said on other threads that I am convinced that Disney doesn't want guests like myself who are right there to remind them everytime they don't live up to their own marketing hype. A rube from Ohio (sorry, anyone from Ohio, picked at random) who visited once as a kid in 1993 and barely recalls much and returned in 2002, fell in love with the place, now goes annually and is a DVCer is exactly what Disney wants. That's why they 'get away with it' ... they can't in Anaheim, even if they've tried.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I hear you Dis-Philip. That Spirit of 74 is nothing, but a Disney management stalker. He even uses other names in different forumns to spread his vile hatered of Disney!>> Ssshhhh .... that was supposed to be our special secret!!!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I've told you Spirit you have to get over this obsession you have with my darling Sarah. After all she is a married woman.>> How long you think that's gonna last? Pretty soon Todd will be writing his own book ... well, someone will be writing it for him. And then she's on the market! We could take a DCL cruise to Russia for our honeymoon! <<I sent you that Palin 2012 T with her picture on it in the hope that it would help calm your racing heart, and sweaty palms every time you see her on television.. However, I feel it has only contributed to those delusional fantasys you have of her.>> That was YOU that sent the tee? I thought it came from our noted book thief here! <<I also don't think it's healthy that you have all of her speeches recorded, and lay awake at night listening to them, and doing what ever it is that you do.>> You have no idea ... no idea ... (nor do you wish to)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<This is a very strange place.>> And you just noticed that? (and remember it always gets stranger at the holidays!)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Innoventions West is getting a new exhibit. I think it belongs to IBM, but whatever it is its going where Thinkamajig used to be. so that's where my raise went ?>> You were supposed to take me to dinner with that money. What next a $1 double cheeseburger from BK? (yes, sadly that was my Spirited lunch today ... the taste of poverty!) And is that like my ninth post in a row? C'mon, where is everyone? I would hate to be considered a post whore trying to pump up my own numbers!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>well what do you expect out of a Tory turncoat.<<< Don't you dare call me a Tory, it is almost as bad as calling me a southern republican. What did I do to you ;-)
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>> actually WANT you to come to FLA, Dave. Miss ya and since we didn't connect in Paris last month, not sure when we might.<<< Oh we will make it out to Florida again, once the kids are old enough to enjoy Kennedy Space Centre, St Augustine, and the Universal resort. We will of course go to DAK and Epcot while in the neighbourhood. Plus we have many friends we want to see. Maybe we will take a cruise. Sadly, Tokyo is more of a priority once I get the funds together. You know how they love Bowler hats and tea.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>What next a $1 double cheeseburger from BK? (yes, sadly that was my Spirited lunch today ... the taste of poverty!)<< Sounds good here... (Says the person who makes his own lunch and brings it!) ;-)
Originally Posted By Dis-Philip Thank you very much for taking my side, MPierce. We need to start a petition to get Spirit of 74, Davewasbaloo, TDLFAN, etc. banned from this forum forever, as a perfect punishment for their idiotic and discriminatory ways and bad mouths and attitude problems.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> What next a $1 double cheeseburger from BK? (yes, sadly that was my Spirited lunch today ... the taste of poverty!) << I lust over the thought of a couple of those everytime I see that commercial. As a matter of fact my wife just gave me my $10 weekly allowance, and I think I'm going to blow it all on those $1 BK double cheeseburgers.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> C'mon, where is everyone? I would hate to be considered a post whore trying to pump up my own numbers! << What difference does it make? Everybody already knows you're a free food whore. Besides people can only say "basicly nothing" so many times. I would be fine with future attractions if only they would get their landscaping back up to what it use to be. Also get the food quality to what it once was. If they continue with a strict maintainence program, that will keep me happy also. A couple of new attactions every few years would be fine with me. They don't even have to be major additions. Just get the standards back to what Disney once took pride in. I really think that is much more important than a Fantasyland make-over at sometime in the future.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<This is a very strange place.>> --------- take a quick spin through W/E section - this section will seem very very normal after that
