Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << agreed - with one caveat, I would like to see them spring for some new stuff before the economy is completely back - be prepared when people decide a vacation is really needed... >> The economy won't be back for several years, so there's plenty of time.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << Anyway, while I substanitively agree with most of what you wrote, in the end I go away because of the fact Disney has been incredibly conservative in how it invests and reinvests in WDW. >> Maybe because there's no return on investment there? Have you looked at a comparison of theme park earnings from the 90s and today? Despite additional parks, attractions, gates, hotels, etc, Disney's parks business doesn't earn any more today than it did a decade ago. From a purely dollars and cents standpoint, theme parks and attractions are a loser. Unless the studio starts minting money again (like it did in the early 90s with Lion King and others), don't expect to see much more than a conservative approach to theme park spending. Without a profitable studio, the parks have to contend with their own cash flows -- which aren't sufficient for major captial expenditures across all of the parks that exist.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Me too. My fall of 2008 Interuppted by The Olympics and George Bush Breaking the World (that was for one special Spirit!) << I here he drowns kittens too! There are thousands of them buried on his capitalist pig ranch outside of Waco!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Thank you very much for taking my side, MPierce. << >> Hey, no fair. He told me he'd be on my side if I shared my Best of Sarah Palin speech collection. << We'll start the bidding at 25 Mickey Dollars.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> We need to start a petition to get Spirit of 74, Davewasbaloo, TDLFAN, etc. banned from this forum forever, as a perfect punishment for their idiotic and discriminatory ways and bad mouths and attitude problems. << TDLFAN is under self imposed exile. I sure do miss him. Anybody who wants to ban children from WDW is top shelf in my opinion!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think you are purposely avoiding WDW, so you don't have to add your name to the 'Take a Spirit To Dinner' list (there really is one!) ... convenient how you never had issues with WDW until THE LIST! << We all have to make sacrifices in this economy. >> Landscaping? Florida is a subtropical paradise where anything grows (Dave Barry, do I name drop and say I know he and Michelle personally? nah, was just on Craig Ferguson's show talking about our python problem ... as an aside, too bad you can't feed obnoxious fanbois too the pythons in the Glades and see if they'll 'splode from the fatties!)... << I saw a program about that on the history channel. I hear they like to crawl into upscale gated communities in southern Florida, while looking for free food. I meant to ask if you've ever bumped into one. I loved to read Dave Barry.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I generally am not a BK fan. But I gotta admit, that burger was likely the best I have had at any BK in many, many, many years. It looked and tasted like you see in ads. And with no fries and a small Coke, didn't blow my daily calorie count sky high! << When we were stuck at a Holiday Inn Express, for 9 days because of huricane Ike, last year. I was fortunate enough to have a BK right next door. I think the last time I had a Whooper was in the 70's. I don't think they taste as good now, but it was still pretty good. I just know those $1 double cheeseburgers sure look good on TV, and for a buck you can't go wrong. >> BTW, have you been to one of their new concept outlets? I thought they had a few with the new redesign in Houston. << I didn't even know about the change. To be honest I had to look up the closest BK to me on the internet.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> So, you like strict maintainance do you? Funny ... that's what Mrs. Pierce told me too! << I thought she told you I required a lot of maintenance because I broke down a bunch. >> BTW, hear about Shanghai yet? Brooks Barnes, who has no business writing for the NY Times, has a big story on the project. << What's wrong with Brooks Barnes? Do you think he's a better match with the Wall Street Journal? I like Carny people. >> Where's Leemac to weigh in? << I don't know. Let me try something. HEY LEEMAC, WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU!!!!!
Originally Posted By Spyderman >>Anyway, while I substanitively agree with most of what you wrote, in the end I go away because of the fact Disney has been incredibly conservative in how it invests and reinvests in WDW. I know we've had this discussion ad nauseum but when Disney wasn't putting $$$ into the parks (when they were printing money allegedly in the 'alleged' great boom years of either Clinton or Bush, depending on your partisan politics ... my feelings are there was a great economic fraud perpetrated on the American public that began before Clinton, gained a tremendous amount of steam when he was in the White House and then went into sixth gear when W took over but 'nother story), it just seems like Disney's business model is invest as little as possible in WDW no matter whether times are great, awful or in between.<< What are your thoughts on President Obama?
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 agreed - with one caveat, I would like to see them spring for some new stuff before the economy is completely back - be prepared when people decide a vacation is really needed...<< The economy is never going to be completely back... With WDW offering substantial discounts just to get guests in the gates, any further enhancements to the parks will be a losing proposition...
Originally Posted By dshyates While the economy will never be back to the lie that was the Bush years, I'll offer to take the kindly Spirit to lunch at the Disney's Crossroads Hooters. By the way Disney is actually claiming The Crossroads (which they never did before the monorail ax.) When the EVIL left wing MEDIA set up shop at "The Crossroads" during the "incedent" they tolerated it. But a week later we got the memo that we were no longer welcome at "Disney's Crossroads". So now we have to set up our Live Shots on the "Western Way" entrance. It's like Disney believes that by not being able to set up at the crossroads the international media will simply ignore an employee being killed on Disney's Monorail system. Yeah, good luck with that!!!!
Originally Posted By Spyderman >> The economy is never going to be completely back... With WDW offering substantial discounts just to get guests in the gates, any further enhancements to the parks will be a losing proposition...<< exactly. That is why when EE and some of the folks at that other site start talking about all this new stuff to be announced I get very skeptical. Anyone with any business sense can tell you that based on Disney's actions there not going to be adding anything aside from whats announced.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<I bought back in the 80s. It doesn't hurt that bad.> Me too, the stock is worth 4-5 times what I paid for it.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros He posts there about once every other month. It's not nearly as common as it used to be. I truly miss his photo updates and news from the parks, but I'm alright without some of the attitude that came with it.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 They serve green tea in DAK? Where, the Asia area or something? I actually acquired a taste for it myself, but it took a while. I really love Hagan Daas Green Tea ice cream. Yum. --------- Liptpm makes a sparkling green tea with berry that I really like
Originally Posted By vbdad55 The economy is never going to be completely back... With WDW offering substantial discounts just to get guests in the gates, any further enhancements to the parks will be a losing proposition... ----- I disagree - to a point. Now it will be a minimum of 5 years before the housing market starts to recover some...( 3 times that long to recover most of lost value- with some areas never getting it all back as it was grossly overvalued to begin with. Job will never be the same again in the traditional snse- as off shoring has taken care of that - but something new always comes along. One need look no further than the great depression to see what a long road recovery is..this was not a bump in the road, it was major breakage... and while we seen the nonsense days of .com which was mostly smoke and mirrors ( with a few exceptions) - nor the insane real estate run up in places like California and Florida ( though not as bad or high there) - and Vegas / Phoenix... I think 'normalcy' will be here in 10-15 years...no sooner
Originally Posted By -em >>So now we have to set up our Live Shots on the "Western Way" entrance.<< I've seen a few different trucks along the Epcot Center Drive entrance- course now with the blinky blinky "Don't stop here" lights its less often... -em
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Me too. My fall of 2008 Interuppted by The Olympics and George Bush Breaking the World (that was for one special Spirit!) << <<I here he drowns kittens too! There are thousands of them buried on his capitalist pig ranch outside of Waco!>> I wonder what/who else is buried on the ranch ... and I thought his ranch was in Midland? >> Thank you very much for taking my side, MPierce. << >> Hey, no fair. He told me he'd be on my side if I shared my Best of Sarah Palin speech collection. << <<We'll start the bidding at 25 Mickey Dollars.>> How about some old DCA postcards and a 1996 EPCOT guidemap?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<TDLFAN is under self imposed exile. I sure do miss him.>> I do too. And he knows it. He just had enough and opted to leave. I feel that way about another site I post on often, but I hear some dude has my back there. He's da bomb! <<Anybody who wants to ban children from WDW is top shelf in my opinion!>> Agreed. When did WDW become all about brats? Hell, when I was a kid it sure wasn't.
