WDW Depression?

Originally Posted By fkurucz

<<Over 2 days now and there still hasn't been a sell off, Its still up a couple bucks.>>

Wait until the Q2 numbers come out.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

Is Pirates an E ticket? I'm not sure. The one at DL I'm sure is. But the abbreviated version at WDW? I liked it better with the treasure room at the end.



I think they're both E's - one however is an E+

 

Originally Posted By itsme

Im sure the stock will go down again, but the panic sell off because some analyst says its time to dump didn't and wont happen. Those analysts are nothing more then talking heads making guesses to feel better about their status if and when they hit one right.
Being there myself and talking with others that have also been this year the theme park #'s ain't that bad so far this year imo. Now other parts of the company may/will be down and drag the final #'s down, but right now I think the parks are holding their own in this economy compared to how some want you to believe.

 

Originally Posted By vbdad55

Headlines on news here today Six Flags preparing bankruptcy filing

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

Cedar Fair announced a cut in their dividends (from $1.92 to $1.00/partnership unit) and has expressed publicly they may be willing to sell up to three of it's exising parks in order to pay down debt.

They aren't facing bankruptcy...but it goes to show that the pain extends far and wide.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Who defines "E" attraction? Me and my kid would rather ride Buzz twice before riding Pirates once...even though we love Pirates. Is Pirates an E attraction? >>

Well ... back when Disney ranked attractions, PoC was an 'E' ... Buzz didn't exist, but the prior attraction was an airline commercial for free (albeit a very nice one) based on the same ride system/length as Adventures Thru Inner Space at DL ... and that was a 'C' ... today, I'd still rank them like that.

Ultimately, there are folks who may enjoy sitting on a bench in Town Square to be the highlight of their day, but it sure doesn't make that bench an E-Ticket ...

Someone's highlight may be watching their children giggle and cavort at the McPoohland Playground or the one they have in Toontown. It doesn't make them E-Tix.

Someone else may love the TTA, but hate PoC, BTMRR and Splash Mountain ...

Do you see where I am going with this?

Attractions aren't categorized by Disney anymore except when they spend a lot and want to toss out the 'E' label like with EE or Soarin etc ... so the rest is debatable and left to the fans to argue about.

But most 'fans' can understand why the Mad Tea Party is a 'B' and why ToT or KS or Splash Mountain are 'E's

<<We have a lot more fun...together...on Buzz.>>

Again, that just proves my point above. But even though you enjoy Buzz more it doesn't make it better anymore than the fact I enjoy sitting on the WDW RR and the TTA a great deal more than riding Space Mountain.

~I'll show you an E-Ticket~

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Over 2 days now and there still hasn't been a sell off, Its still up a couple bucks. So basically no one took this guys advice. At this point it doesn't matter what he said, At this point if he had merit and power to get investors to listen it would have happened by now.>>

Keep telling that to yourself ... you may believe it, but I can guarantee you Bob Iger and the Board and Wall Street don't.

The market has been up for most of the week, so that's no gauge at all.

And the fundamentals/reasoning of Pali's report are completely on point.

~It's me too!~

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Its that heart/head thing, Really no different then betting on your favorite sports team.>>

Nah ... got a much better return on my sports wagering.

~Is that Jay Rasulo running in the third race at Saratoga?~

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<I think they're both E's - one however is an E+>>

Try the one in Paris and get back to me.

~D23 or Tales?~

 

Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

<<Ultimately, there are folks who may enjoy sitting on a bench in Town Square to be the highlight of their day, but it sure doesn't make that bench an E-Ticket ...>>

It did for my Grandmother in the 80's!!

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> Ultimately, there are folks who may enjoy sitting on a bench in Town Square to be the highlight of their day, but it sure doesn't make that bench an E-Ticket ... <<

That bench always gives me motion sickness!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<That bench always gives me motion sickness!>>

Likely because you are not supposed to ride the bench in your pimped out ECV!

~Bench: A true Hall of Famer~

 

Originally Posted By MPierce

>> Likely because you are not supposed to ride the bench in your pimped out ECV!
<<

It wasn't really pimped out. Well maybe just a little with the Leopard skin seat.

 

Originally Posted By -em

^ LOL!


Bench the ride..


-em

 

Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad

<<<Headlines on news here today Six Flags preparing bankruptcy filing>>>


This doesn't surprise me. I think I remember reading a couple years ago how they were stuggling because they had so much debt and were going to have a hard time paying it off. This is sad news though. My parents took us to 6 flags every year and I thought it was the greatest until I finally visited Disney.

 

Originally Posted By Mr X

***but it sure isn't good news except for those of us who are waiting for the price per share to hit $10, so we can buy ... lots!***

Not sure if this has been addressed yet or not, but for someone who is so negative about so many aspects of DisCo (and rightly so, I would add), WHY the heck would you be looking to invest in the company at ANY price?

To me, unless they turn it around and return to a quality mindset, it's not a sound investment (although I almost bought Citibank when it hit $1, just for fun lol).

 

Originally Posted By itsme

>>Keep telling that to yourself ... you may believe it, but I can guarantee you Bob Iger and the Board and Wall Street don't.>>

Thank you, I will keep telling myself that. Of course the only knowledge that I have about it comes from acing both series 6 and 7.


>>>>The market has been up for most of the week, so that's no gauge at all.>>

It absolutely is, If you understood the market and how it works just because the market is up doesn't mean that all companies will be. If its a bad company going nowhere like you and and the talking heads you reported on here say it is, the stock should be down.

 

Originally Posted By bobbelee9

<<It did for my Grandmother in the 80's!!
>>

True, her son had to bully her into riding IASW, she was scared because it was a water ride. And she was the one who instigated that first trip to WDW.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Thank you, I will keep telling myself that. Of course the only knowledge that I have about it comes from acing both series 6 and 7. >>

So ... how's business?

>>>>The market has been up for most of the week, so that's no gauge at all.>>

<<It absolutely is, If you understood the market and how it works just because the market is up doesn't mean that all companies will be. If its a bad company going nowhere like you and and the talking heads you reported on here say it is, the stock should be down.>>

Isn't it? Let's go back a year ... no, wait ... six months ... no, how about three months?

When the market rises nine percent in a week, most companies get swept up like a big wave at the beach ... it doesn't mean they aren't struggling to swim.

And I never said (nor for that matter did the analyst) say Disney was a 'bad company going nowhere' ... just that the company's near term future was bleak and would be a drag for a lot longer than simply the remainder of 2009.

I believe that.

More importantly, so do WDC execs. If they didn't then you might actually be hearing of future plans for WDW.

~Itsme ...or is it you?~

 

Originally Posted By wahooskipper

Most companies in America have near term futures that are bleak and will continue to drag beyond '09. If our entire country is hurting (which...it seems is the popular belief) then why should WDW be immune to that?