Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> I'm not at liberty to release that information. << Now that's just not fair. You make a startling statement about safety, and then you tell us you can't say anymore. Not even a little bit. But then you imply "Trust me -- it's true and I know about it." Nobody knows who you are. If you aren't at liberty to say what problems there might be, then you shouldn't even be saying what you've already said.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy Besides, I hear that the buses may have SERIOUS safety issues that are being overlooked. Or maybe not. But I can't say anymore than that.....
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Now that's just not fair. You make a startling statement about safety, and then you tell us you can't say anymore. Not even a little bit. >> Life isn't fair, SS. I'm just covering my backside. All I can say is that there have been numerous incidents where safety has been compromised on the rails due to neglect/poor maintainance and when it has been brought to management's attention, the CMs/whistleblowers have been threatened with losing their jobs. And some of them have had them for well over a decade and know what they're talking about. There have been incidences of pieces literally flying off the trains. There have been instances where brakes haven't worked and accidents have resulted. There have been instances where trains have caught fire and if guests had been onboard, likely would have resulted in serious injuries and fatalities. <<But then you imply "Trust me -- it's true and I know about it." Nobody knows who you are. If you aren't at liberty to say what problems there might be, then you shouldn't even be saying what you've already said.>> Bull. You may not know me. But there are plenty of readers here who do know me in 'the real world' ... other readers here who lurk and know me ... and naturally my friends in the WDW exec suites who know me. I'll just stand on my record. You don't have to believe a word I say. It makes zero difference to me. But it also doesn't change the facts that I report, either.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Nobody knows who you are. If you aren't at liberty to say what problems there might be, then you shouldn't even be saying what you've already said. >>> Some people here on LP manage to establish their credibility over time with their posts. Some people also have contacts within TWDC, and sometimes there are indirect relationships which are not always apparent. Then there's the issue of that separate from their inside knowledge or contacts, some people show that they've generally have a good reading on things while others demonstrate over and over again that they don't. Personally, I give high regard to what Spirit has to say.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Personally, I give high regard to what Spirit has to say. << Perhaps. And I thank you for that. But I don't have the same familiarity that you apparently do. I don't know him personally, or by his reputation. I will give benefit of the doubt to anyone. But I don't have to like it when ANYONE says "Here's something bad I know about someone or something. But sorry, I can't tell you any more about it or whether even it's true because it would compromise me/someone." Without some specifics people have a way of assuming that something's worse than what you actually meant. And then passing on their own take on it as truth. In my case, I'm going to park this piece of unsupported news as such, and keep my own eyes open. But I won't be adding anything about what I might have heard from someone else I don't know. Thanks, gents.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Well... I think it's safe to assume there are some problems with the monorails, and you don't have to be an insider to know that. Just the other day, both G-Fan and I were riding monorail Red from Epcot to TTC and shortly after we departed, the mono came to stop for a minute and the driver comes on.. "We are having 'techinical difficulties' on monorail Red, but will be proceeding on to TTC shortly..." From that point on, we crawled all the way to TTC at what felt like 5 mph. That's just on example... then, there are the many breaking system checks that are done on what appears to be a very recurrent, almost urgent, manner thru the day. As for the Spirit... well, he seems well informed and connected. You should trust his opinion more than mine because I am just a "fan" who does not have that insider connection. You should also get to know him personally...as I have. We can talk more about his off the boards ssWEDguy.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Perhaps. And I thank you for that. But I don't have the same familiarity that you apparently do. I don't know him personally, or by his reputation. >>> I don't know him personally either, although he (or she?) is on my short list of LPers I'd like to meet someday but haven't yet. The reputation I was referring to was the one he's established himself through his posts. I cetainly agree that just because someone says "I know something secret but can't tell you the details" doesn't mean much of anything. <<< riding monorail Red from Epcot to TTC and shortly after we departed, the mono came to stop for a minute and the driver comes on.. "We are having 'techinical difficulties' on monorail Red, but will be proceeding on to TTC shortly..." From that point on, we crawled all the way to TTC at what felt like 5 mph. That's just on example... >>> Crawled, perhaps because the brakes were not working? I wonder how often the "waiting for traffic clearance" situation that occurs frequently is caused by such an incident happening on a train ahead of the current one? <<< then, there are the many breaking system checks that are done on what appears to be a very recurrent, almost urgent, manner thru the day. >>> But TDLFAN, we've been informed here on LP by someone that works for a public transport agency in the northeast that the more frequent that safety checks for such things interrupt regular operations, the more safe it is. Totally dismissed was the notion that a monorail system could simply be maintained properly such that it almost never breaks down or needs to be stopped for a safety check, and as a result is both safe AND on time.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> You should also get to know him personally...as I have << I'm more than willing to get to know people better. Someday in the parks would be fun. (But probably not on the monorail!) (<--- a joke!) And I believe that what you all are quoting are conditions that you either know about or have experienced yourself. It's just that I have never experienced such a thing myself, even though I ride the monorails a lot. I hope to continue to be so lucky.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 As I've said before, I am not here to win any popularity contests. I'm also not going to be deceitful and say I don't have an agenda, when I absolutely do. But when I post things that I know for a fact are true, they are. I love the monorails. I could ride them for hours. I'd like nothing better than to see the system expanded. But I also know that there are major safety issues that are being ignored by WDW management because they haven't had guests die or injured and they haven't had mainstream media give them the black-eye they so richly deserve for putting dollars before safety. I can't/won't say anymore at this time ... and again, readers can believe what they choose. There are so many stories I could put out here (like the church-going, family-lovng exec arrested for solicting prostitutes and how that charge disappeared with the swish of Tink's wand ... or another exec who used the College Program to sellect young, male lovers each year ... or the publicist who 'took' all kinds of media 'gifts' from work and ebayed them for tens of thousands to pay for her husband's schooling ... or the pedophiles that have been hanging out at Disney water parks for years ...) Oh, yeah, the Spirit has stories. But most of them are for another time and place.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Meaning... Earl's of Sandwish at 1pm this week. >>Totally dismissed was the notion that a monorail system could simply be maintained properly such that it almost never breaks down or needs to be stopped for a safety check, and as a result is both safe AND on time.<< I have never experienced delays due to break checkups in any trains system I have ridden in this big wide World of ours, except for WDW's monorails. Their constant safety checks only tell me they are desperately trying to control something that they know could become a major problem with regretful consequences, while keeping the trains going, rather than shutting down the service for an extended period of time for a massive rehab whish is needed badly based on observations alone. No arguments are made about the WDW monorails being safe, but I wonder ... for how long will they be? Same principle that applies to airplanes.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Meaning... Earl's of Sandwish at 1pm this week. >> We actually need to get you into some of WDW's finer dining establishments!
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Sorry, I don't overpay for themed experiences that only serve to distract you from the so-so quality of the food. Reason why I gladly pay the reasonable prices at TDS, and get satisfaction in those two areas... food and theming.
