Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << I seriously don't freakin' get it. >> You need to understand real estate in order to get it. Selecting a hotel room is a real estate transaction. It's all about location, location, location. There is some degree of influence when it comes to amenities and other features, but the bottom line on all real estate transactions is that the market price is heavily weighted to location. It's a common misconception in the world of real estate that luxury amenities will somehow command luxury prices, but the price is always more dependent on the neighborhood. That's why it's always wise to buy the least expensive model home on the block and not the most expensive. You can doll a place up with granite countertops, fancy moldings, and top of the line appliances to your hearts content, but you're probably only going to get the same price as the guy next door. The hotel business works roughly the same way.
Originally Posted By dshyates Nikki, Its just the prices are SOOO out of whack. I could see even something like $340 at the Grand with the Ritz being $219. But $630 for a 3 star hotel. That just seems crazy to me. And I have recently seen rooms for the WL for $189 and I would consider it a great bargain and would choose it over the $219 Ritz. I think the moderates do a good job with its mix of magic and amenities and are by far the best "value" of the Disney properties. At $89 a night I think the values are also overpriced. But that is because I don't really like them. Their style or amenities. But $630 for a garden view at the Grand? That just seems really out of whack. But I know folks that pay $600 for a T-Shirt. Of course its hand spun silk and has a St. Croix label in it. But I think that is crazy too.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Will The Ritz provide transportation to Disney Theme Parks? GF will..I would never pay to stay there but, I do usually vist.
Originally Posted By dshyates The Ritz only has free transport to Universal Sea World Aquatica and Wet n Wild. They offer round trip Town Cars to the Disney parks for $37 for up to 5. But the Waldorf at $279/night will free transport to the Disney Parks, but not Universal. But to me that really isn't an issue as I always have a car down there and I like to hit a nice restaurant after I leave the parks. And the Ritz also has 24-hr room service which is important to me if I stay until after the fireworks. And the ONLY Disney hotel that I know that offers that is The Grand Californian.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper The funny thing is the Grand is "beneath" many people...which is why Disney is talking to the Four Seasons. Crazy, I know...but then again, I don't know what it is like to be embarassingly rich.
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << which is why Disney is talking to the Four Seasons. >> I think Disney's involvement with the Four Seasons has more to do with the fact that Prince Alwaleed owns the hotel chain, as well as a major stake in Disneyland Paris. I think an on-property hotel for Four Seasons was part of a negotiation with the Prince to encourage him to maintain his investment in DLP.
Originally Posted By jmuboy I would love for Disney to actually OPERATE the Grand Floridian as an uber luxury resort worthy of those prices. Then the Four Seasons and the Grand could be placed in a new WDW Hotel category of their own called "luxury" resorts. This would be one tier above the "deluxe" resorts. Then maybe the deluxe resorts could back off their insane prices - even if just "a little" Pipe dreams......I know.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper The problem the Grand will always have with the super wealthy is it is too kid friendly and the monorail obscures it being "exclusive".
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Some of y'all amaze me. First, the people that stay in the values are rednecks and low class. Then, the people who pay premium money to stay at the Grand Floridian are idiots. What's wrong with people who stay in the moderates? We haven't covered them yet. << Uppity Red Necks!
Originally Posted By MPierce Yes the prices at WDW have become insane Dave, and I feel they are only going to get worse. It's almost like the Mouse wants to see how much you will take from him. If folks are willing to pay those prices, and smile about it, let them. I choose to no longer play the game. End of story.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Nikki, Its just the prices are SOOO out of whack.>> But they're charging it because people are paying it. You don't like it, stay somewhere else. End of story.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey Then why are you so up in arms about what other people are doing?
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<I haven't stayed on Disney property since 2005.>> We know, which is why I don't understand why you're so upset. You're not paying these prices. If someone else wants to spend $630 a night on a hotel room, then that's their problem. Disney is charging what people will pay. Hotel rooms here in New Orleans are going to double or triple their rates over the next two weeks because of Mardi Gras. I wouldn't pay $120 a night to stay at a La Quinta, but people will pay it because that's what they're charging and hotels are nearly booked solid.
Originally Posted By dshyates I DON'T CARE what other people do. I just am not sure this course of action is a smart business move for Disney. As a matter of fact, I think its a really DUMB business move. Running of people who WANT to give you their money can't be good. But I will more than willingly throw tons of money to others that provide quality and a reasonable price for it. I can easily pay Disney prices as $219 a night will surely get a room on-prop, but I am not, under ANY circumstances going to pay $630 a night for a 3 star when I can get a FAR FAR FAR superior 4 Star at 1/3 the price.
Originally Posted By dshyates I would like to stay on property again. But the value is soo out of whack that I just bring myself to do it.
Originally Posted By dshyates "that I just bring myself to do it." Should be "that I just CAN'T bring myself to do it."
Originally Posted By dshyates When staying on prop be sure to bring your own lube. You think sunscreen is expensive.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 you're missing the point ( secret ?) dyshates - Disney would rather have you throw $25K at them and buy your room... I am a staunch DVC supporter - but yes I admit they are milking the cash cow - early and often
