Originally Posted By dshyates If the Grand is worth $630/night then surely Port Orleans is worth at least $430/night. And I bet they would get it.
Originally Posted By barboy /// The Grand FL is $559 Expedia Special Rate, and $630 Garden View./// Anyone outside of very rich who pays $600 for 18rs of GF is completely irresponsible with money. A more appropriate price in this downturn is $200, $250 tops.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Some might want to stay near the magic kingdom? Sure. Some insist on staying "in the magic"? Yup.>> AMEN!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Some might want to stay near the magic kingdom? Sure. Some insist on staying "in the magic"? Yup.>> AMEN!
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt just trying to get my point across! I totally agree with you Nikki, if Disney Hotels/Resorts prices are not for you then stay elsewhere. I also say "y'all" & I'm from the North.
Originally Posted By Mr X And that's perfectly fine. But, again, it doesn't make the place "superior" in any real sense. Just preferable, for some (for whatever reason). Heck, some folks might consider the All-Stars "superior" because they're a lot of fun. Fine for them...but that doesn't make the All-Stars "superior" in reality. Right?
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt Correct! I love the GR & the Contemp..But, They are both over priced so we stay at WL..
Originally Posted By Mr X GR? You mean the Grand Floridian (I'm guessing)? Yup, it does certainly come down to preferences sometimes too. Heck, I LOVE the Contemporary (haven't priced it recently though) even though many online and elsewhere slam the place for being outdated and whateverelse...BUT, I would probably pay more to stay there than some other place, just because I like it (how much more is the real question). But I certainly wouldn't justify my stay by saying "I think it's superior to the Four Seasons" or anything silly like that.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt yes, GF..sorry, it's early.. The Contempory is about $100 or so a night more than WL..just for monrail access.. I like the little boat better anyway. We live in a wooded area so the "rocks", streams & trees don't do it for me. The DH is the hunt/fish type , so he loves.
Originally Posted By Mr X The little boat is pretty cool. It's not like it's all that inconvenient (the All-Stars...thems inconvenient lol)... I love that place, actually. (I would still consider staying at the Contemporary if possible though, AND the Poly, as a matter of preference (I would NOT bother staying at the Grand Floridian unless all the other "top" Disney hotels were booked AND I could get a deep discount...just not my cup of tea regardless...).
Originally Posted By dshyates Rooms at the Poly when I checked were $550. That is the one I was actually checking for, as the poly is my favorite, but I used thg GF because $630 is more impressively out of line. With prices like this I am not surprised they NEED to run the 7for4 deal.
Originally Posted By danyoung Wait a sec, yates - that makes no sense. They're overpricing their rooms to the point where they need to do a big giveaway deal to make any money? Nope, I don't buy it. They're pricing the rooms as they are because they're getting that much for them. Out of line for you & me? Certainly. Out of line for the average clientele at the GF and the Poly? Not at all.
Originally Posted By dshyates "They're overpricing their rooms to the point where they need to do a big giveaway deal to make any money?" Yes, that is obviously what they are doing. They aren't giving away rooms all summer becuase they are running a %98 percent occupancy rate. When they implemented the plan they were running at (reportedly) about a 30% occupancy rate on existing reservations. So Dan, why do YOU think they are giving away rooms all summer? If they were booked, they wouldn't be giving away rooms. Thats pretty obvious.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<Some of y'all amaze me. First, the people that stay in the values are rednecks and low class. Then, the people who pay premium money to stay at the Grand Floridian are idiots. What's wrong with people who stay in the moderates? We haven't covered them yet.>> Yeah Nikki,
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<Some of y'all amaze me. First, the people that stay in the values are rednecks and low class. Then, the people who pay premium money to stay at the Grand Floridian are idiots. What's wrong with people who stay in the moderates? We haven't covered them yet.>> Yeah Nikki,
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Oops, sorry for the double post, I'm having lots of trouble with my pc today. I'd be interested in the occupancy rates before & after the 4/3 night deal. If GF is at 90% before they made the free night offer, then obviously there are people out there who don't think it's overpriced. Hey, let them spend their money, it gives people jobs. If GF was at 10% occupancy, then they are surely overpriced and trying to back track by offering free nights. And as someone said. If you're there extra nights, that's more you have to spend for admission, food and stuff. Not that there was a lot of "stuff" that I wanted to buy last summer.
Originally Posted By dshyates I think the folks that stay at the moderates are smart shoppers. And I think the Mods are the best mix of price and Disney Magic. I even will say that for the WL and AKL patrons. But I have noticed that those that defend the $630 price also don't stay there.
Originally Posted By danyoung >If they were booked, they wouldn't be giving away rooms.< You're looking at it as if the inventory of rooms is all in one big pile. It's entirely possible for Disney to be selling its high end inventory at top dollar while still needing to fill the sales of the rest of the rooms. If they have 900 rooms at the GF, and can sell 100 of them at $600 a night, that's a good thing for them. But the other 800 aren't selling at $300 a night, so they need to do a special. I've never been in hotel management, so I'm basically talking without real knowledge (something I'm good at!). But it makes total sense to me that they could be doing both - successfully selling at high price, while still needing to discount the rest of their inventory.
Originally Posted By dshyates All I know is Disney has NEVER, EVER given away rooms during the High Season. And the fact the deal was supposed to end in May, but was extended through the High Season tells me they are NOT selling the rooms. This screams desperate to fill rooms. So I believe quoting such a high Rack Rate to ANYONE at this point is counterproductive. But Disney fans, because of the desire to go, will scourer the internets for secret codes and such. Even if you call central Reservations and ask what deals are available they won't tell you. I just look for properties that actually want me there, not the other way around.
Originally Posted By danyoung yates, you're just not seeing it. I agree with you that Disney is having a hard time filling rooms, and these discounts are unprecedented. But the discounted rooms have nothing to do with the rooms that they sell at high dollar. It's the same with airlines. Who in their right mind would spend $1100 for a flight from Dallas to Orlando? No, you buy in advance, get the right discount, and save money. But there are business people who don't care about the discounts, who want to get to Orlando NOW, and the price doesn't matter. This is what's happening with Disney. They can continue to make top dollar for rooms, but at the same time they need to offer these discounts to push up their occupancy.
