Originally Posted By MPierce >> The GF is the best resort on any Disney property and has the only truly 5 star resturaunt in Orlando with Victoria and Alberts.IMO. << Try walking to the Magic Kingdom from there.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I give up MP, my view changed when I gave up snorting pixie dust. I will still visit the Disney Parks (if they ever build something I want to see), but I have seen the light and I can put together a higher Luxe vacation at 1/3 the price. I think the others would be surprised at how much it DOESN'T suck to stay at the Ritz. I feel freed from the requisite gouging one has to put up with on-prop. I don't care what others do, but I am glad I opened my eyes to what is possible. << I know exactly how you feel Dave. This last trip left a very bad taste in my mouth. When you spend over $3,000 (discounted price) you expect to have fond memories of your trip. Not feel bitterness at a place you love so much.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And a lot of those who would still charge it all, have seen their interest rates jusmp from 8% to over 30%. The economic world changed in September. I bet we will either see Disney lower prices or have a continual "deal" like they are offering for the entire year of 2009. Literally the ENTIRE year. << The Mouse is an arrogant little Rodent. He gives room, and ticket discounts while raising prices elsewhere
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^So do I. He won't learn anything though. I can almost guarantee that.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I knew you'd understand, MP! << It's easy to understand when you practice something.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad <<Of course, the debt/housing bubble made it possible for ordinary folks to pretend they were big shots staying in $600 rooms, but now we are paying the price.>> I don't agree. Financials offered them the money with crazy terms so the people took it. Nearly everything is disposable in todays society so when they became upside down in their loans they threw them away and walked away. I'm not surprised at this. I think this type of mindset is being drilled into us. Insurance makes it extremely difficult to get things covered. Big industry outsources jobs to foreign countries at the expense of dometic labor. Government continues to raise taxes and therefore cost of living. Everyone who works for a large corp watches the ceo's turnover walking away with huge packages while lower labor has their hours cut. It is creating a me first society where loyalty and responsibility are a thing of the past.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad Here in Charlotte USAir ceo's kept resigning and each walked with about 5 million in severence. That's alot of jet fuel.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<^^^ I reserved that spot for you Bobbelee!>> Thank you very much, MPierce. I really appreciate your efforts, especially today. I'm having way too much pc trouble today. Can't even get to my e-mail, have to get on line through Opera because I can't connect through my cable company who bleeds me $46 a month just to get on line. It's really funny, doing this through Opera, all the print is a different style. Where's my son? I need him to fix this stupid mess.
Originally Posted By dshyates " Where's my son? I need him to fix this stupid mess." I am my parents IT guy.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Well get up here and fix this thing, my son won't be home until sometime in March. Although he did call me the other day at work to ask me the price of a 1 day 1 park ticket. When I told him, he repeated it, and said "I told you my mother would know the answer." Then there was lots of laughing in the background. Some of his Navy buddies are planning to go to WDW this summer.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I am my parents IT guy. << It's a generational thing. Us seniors weren't raised with these things. With your parents background that is definetly clear that it's not a lack education thing.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Can't even get to my e-mail, have to get on line through Opera because I can't connect through my cable company who bleeds me $46 a month just to get on line. << Is it the demon seed Comcast?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<Is it the demon seed Comcast?>> Yes sir it is. And to think just last week I told Verizon I was not interested in changing from Comcast to Verizon's FIOS. Say, I think I've got it, Verizon is messing with my internet so I'll switch to them. It's not Comcast's fault. I even tried that Restore thing to the day before, still no luck.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<How much do you think the rate at the Ritz would be if it was located at the doorstep of the Magic Kingdom?>> Good question. I think we'll find out when the Four Seasons debuts. <<The GF is the best resort on any Disney property>> Really? Just a question, but how many Disney resorts worldwide have you been to? Forgetting about other WDW resorts for the moment ... have you stayed at the Grand Californian? What about the DLP Hotel? Or the Mira Costa or new TDL Hotel in Tokyo? Heck, how about the HKDL Hotel? I think in the late 1980s the GF was the best Disney resort in the world, but now I wouldn't even put it in the top 10. <<and has the only truly 5 star resturaunt in Orlando with Victoria and Alberts.IMO.>> V&A's is an amazing experience, no doubt. Absolutely incredible cuisine and service.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<When we all become desensitised to the cost of quality we are doomed to being locked into a cycle of paying more, and receiving less. While all the time making excuses for what we are doing.>> That's the way life is these day ... we have become a WalMarted nation. Disney has never been cheap. But you always got a whole lot for your money, and you always felt/knew they were trying to do anything and everything to make your experience truly magical. Now, how many times have you heard someone (usually not a Disney fan) talk about WDW and saying something to the affect of 'they did everything but have Mickey tip me over on my way out to take any loose change I had left' ... I've heard that ... and most of those folks don't go back. I honestly wonder if Disney doesn't even care, so long as they get that one quick hit of cash. They certainly don't feel the need to earn business ... or create magic ... they feel all they have to do is tell you that you're having a magical time 24/7 and that'll do the trick.
