WDW Social 'Media' and Conspiracy

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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    It's a Spirited thread... we always try to make those go 1,000 posts!!

    Beating a dead Dalmatian... ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    I have no problem with the Disney Parks Blog. It is exactly what I would expect it to be. A shallow online pep rally. And they moderate it no differently than I would a blog concerning my product.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    >>That reminds about one of the reasons why I am so apprehensive about NextGen: the part which supposedly is about more personalization is exactly that: putting up the facade of a personal interaction while taking all real emotion out of it.<<

    <<Man, Bolna, what a great point!>>

    Agreed. ... It's just like when they started slamming us with Wishes, Dreams and MAGIC all the time until they were just talking points from TWDC Political Lobby. Those words now have less than no meaning. Don't tell me you're giving me a MAGICal experience, DO IT!

    <<In addition, it's almost as if they are allergic to simply doing what theme parks do and that is to keep building attractions. They want every excuse they can get NOT to build-out their attraction offerings. Whether it be this NextGen frivolity, or dining experiences, meet and greets, website activities, upcharge tours, marketing blogs/videos, etc.

    They want to make money off as many things as possible that revolve around attractions built many regimes ago. Rather than contribute to the long term health of the company by adding their own substantial attractions. Can't blame them I guess considering even on the small refurbishment they try they typically trip all over themselves.>>

    More great points. Too bad more people are choosing to simply read and not comment. Disney simply doesn't want to build anyTHING new in Florida that doesn't have the letters D-V-C in it. Quick ... what's the last new attraction MK got that wasn't replacing anything? Anyone?

    The Blog is simply designed to play to the fans who are addicted to pixie dust and don't know true Disney (and real world) quality. It's like Pavlov and his dogs really ... or a pusher and his dope.
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<Yes, it looks like there isn't any big picture at all - and it seems like we are discussing exactly that point in various threads at the moment. It shows in the "social media strategy" which concentrates on a tiny group of customers, in the lack of any cohesive plan on how to build out the property and transport people as well as in the maintenance issues.>>

    Yep ... most of the threads getting action here are all talking about the same thing(s) whether or not some of the posters/readers realize it. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<There's something I've been wanting to ask about this beast of a thread. After looking at some of these (very very)long posts I'm starting to wonder what the issue is with Disney have their own blog for the theme parks.>>

    I'm not sure there's an issue. Some of us feel/know there are typical corporate reasons for doing so. And some that strike at the heart of communities like this one where open discussion and debate is encouraged.

    My 'issue' with the Blog (other than providing employment to too many people who do very little and don't have to worry about sleeping in motels like the one that burned down in Kissimmee Sunday night) would be the fact they censor blatantly and don't allow their 'talking heads' to actually talk/communicate with fans when that is, ostensibly, why they started it!

    << Isn't it their goal to get guests to come to the parks?>>

    Not really. I would guess that 98% of all those people who find themselves on that official blog are fans who will be coming regardless. Their goal is largely to spread a PR message cloaked in pixie dust to the flock without ever being real or genuine.

    <<I understand the issue when it comes to those not affilated with the company getting special treatment at events because they have nothing but good things to say. >>

    Nah ... Disney would never be nice to people just because they never had a bad word to say about Disney!
    ;-) ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

    <<It's a Spirited thread... we always try to make those go 1,000 posts!!

    Beating a dead Dalmatian... ;-)>>

    It's not about the numbers with me, Trippy (unless we're talking zeros on a contract). It's about the substance of the discussion.

    Maybe I've just gone over to the Dark Side (or have always been here), but I'm not that keen on discussing my favorite atrractions at EPCOT ... or what moderate is best for a first-timer ... or Chip vs. Dale ... anymore.

    I'd rather discuss REAL issues with Disney and major media.

    But ... you could go over to The Disney Parks Blog and try and post about your less than perfect OKW villa you had on your last trip and see it disappear like it never existed! ;-)
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>More great points. Too bad more people are choosing to simply read and not comment. Disney simply doesn't want to build anyTHING new in Florida that doesn't have the letters D-V-C in it. Quick ... what's the last new attraction MK got that wasn't replacing anything? Anyone?<<<

    Splash.


    EPCOT hasn't had one since 1988.
     
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    Originally Posted By Indigo

    Aladdin's Flying Carpets was the last. It opened in 2002
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>Aladdin's Flying Carpets was the last. It opened in 2002<<<

    And it is totally deserving of the title as it is the pinnacle of theme and creativity and class...
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<It's not about the numbers with me, Trippy (unless we're talking zeros on a contract).>>

    Hey... I LIKE helping my Spirited buddy's threads get to 1,000 posts!!

    <<More great points. Too bad more people are choosing to simply read and not comment. Disney simply doesn't want to build anyTHING new in Florida that doesn't have the letters D-V-C in it. Quick ... what's the last new attraction MK got that wasn't replacing anything? Anyone?>>

    You can hardly blame them... whenever they DO build something new they get ripped for it. And yes, I realize that several of the attractions I'm going to mention are REPLACEMENTS, though at times they replaced either a very minor attraction or one that had been closed for a relatively long period of time.

    MK
    Buzz Lightyear... more Toons.
    Mickey's Philharmagic... another movie attraction (yawn).
    Monsters Inc. Laugh Floor... more Toons... was done better before by Crush.

    Epcot
    Test Track... may be one of the two most popular rides in the park, but it replaced a 15-minute-long MASTERPIECE!
    Mission Space... kills people and is not immersive.
    Soarin'... the most popular attraction in the park, but it's another movie attraction (yawn) plus a lift from California.
    Nemo and Friends... MORE Toons!

    Disney Studios
    Rock & Roller Coaster... too short, an off-the-shelf Vekoma that is just a shadow of what it was supposed to be.
    Lights, Motors, Action... they may love it in Paris, but they love Jerry Lewis too. We Americans are too cool for that kind of crap.
    Toy Story Midway Madness... it may be the most popular attraction in the park, but it's more freaking Toons. Another lift from California.

    AK
    Expedition Everest... Again, the most popular attraction in the park but it's just another off-the-shelf Vekoma... the damn Yeti doesn't work... a 3-second glitch which totally destroys a 3-minute ride... not to mention the cheap bird-on-a stick.

    Can you blame Disney for concentrating their effort on things like DVC? The “fan” community doesn’t like anything they build anyway… why not concentrate on what brings in the most revenue?
     
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    Originally Posted By ChiMike

    Other than ascribing off the shelf vekoma to everest, I think you nailed it RT!!!

    Welcome Aboard!!

    Its good to know that we get through
     
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    Originally Posted By dshyates

    Splash was the last E-Ticket added in 1992 and Aladdin's Flying Carpets was the last new attraction added in 2002.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>Can you blame Disney for concentrating their effort on things like DVC? The “fan” community doesn’t like anything they build anyway… why not concentrate on what brings in the most revenue?<<<

    Because, on that list, do you really see something worth while and HUGE?

    Meanwhile, things like FJ, and TDS and HKDL's expansion lands are looked at with respect and even envy.

    Build things the public wants to see, not things you want the public to see.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>Splash was the last E-Ticket added in 1992 and Aladdin's Flying Carpets was the last new attraction added in 2002.<<<<

    10 years in between and all we have to prove it is a garish, ugly, generic ride and a maligned and wrongly themed central plaza of Adventureland.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    Are you actually referring to Splash Mountain as "...a garish, ugly, generic ride...?" I want to be sure I am reading this correctly before I respond.
     
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    Originally Posted By DlandDug

    And for those who are wondering what it might look like if Disney decided to "engage" in a social media setting, we have an example right here on the site:
    <a href="http://mb.laughingplace.com/MsgBoard-T-118823-P-1.asp" target="_blank">http://mb.laughingplace.com/Ms...-P-1.asp</a>

    It's a short thread, and Disney joins in at post #7. What do you think?
     
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    Originally Posted By irishfan

    Are you actually referring to Splash Mountain as "...a garish, ugly, generic ride...?" I want to be sure I am reading this correctly before I respond.<<

    I'm guessing it's Aladdins flying carpets.
     
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    Originally Posted By leobloom

    >> It's a short thread, and Disney joins in at post #7. What do you think? <<

    Doug, if a robot could type, it would sound like "WaltDisneyPictures."

    Who/what is behind that name?

    Really, the messages from that name sound creepy, they sound so programmed.
     
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    Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

    >>>Are you actually referring to Splash Mountain as "...a garish, ugly, generic ride...?" I want to be sure I am reading this correctly before I respond.<<<

    No, no, no! LOL! The Carpets!


    LOVE Splash Mountain. Easily in my top 10 favorite rides.
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    I don't like Splash at all. I've been on the attraction in Florida and although most of it is FANTASTIC, being EXTREMELY claustrophobic, the queue makes me crazy. It just isn't worth it!
     
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