WDW Social 'Media' and Conspiracy

Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1

WE DID IT!!!!!!


1000 POSTS!!!!!!!!

 

Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1

Actually, two posts ago was 1000 - this is now 1002.

"D'OH!!!!!!!!!!"

 

Originally Posted By Bolna

And you missed the Dalmations!!!! How could you!!!

 

Originally Posted By Bolna

But I think this really shows what an important topic this is - those 1000 posts are mainly really interesting discussion.

And now we just have to go on for another 1000 posts so that we can get the 2001 dalmations done correctly! ;-)

 

Originally Posted By Bolna

<<I've been confronting @DisneyParks on Twitter about their shenanigans. Namely, their silly and incorrect #disneyfyi tweets that contain no information.>>

That's the thing about Social Media. Besides it's dark side (see papiblogger - I am still disgusted about that story) it can also be used the other way.

Here in Germany there was recently (in February) a large scandal about our Minister of Defence who in the end stepped down because his doctoral thesis was full of plagiarisms. While the first doubts about the originality of the thesis were started by an article in one of the big German newspapers - so in real media, some people immediately started a website to research the issue further and came up with a devastating result. In the end the university revoked his degree and he had to step down.

The same group of people who did the online search for plagiarism then continued on to investigate other doctoral theses by people in the public life (getting a doctoral degree just for being able to use the tile for reputation is very common here in Germany). They have found already four other politicians who plagiarised heavily in their theses and had to face consequences.

 

Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1

"And you missed the Dalmations!!!! How could you!!!"

I don't do dalmations.

I think it's dumb.

In fact, in the past I have gone out of my way to deliberately de-rail a dalmation post.

 

Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub

Newspaper headlines and entire television shows that give major free advertising to everything...creating Hype in the real world and the online world. It just is all so phony and yet so powerful especially when it really only is measured in MONEY and more of it.
Want to shock the world and create social change stay home and entertain yourself and keep your money in your own pockets.

 

Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub

Maybe we can create a post of 101 reasons to end the 101 dalmations post

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

>>>Either way, it is just another nail in the credibility of social media, as far as I am concerned!<<<

It had credibility? ZING.

 

Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer

1010 posts. A new record?

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<< This is sort of in line with Bolna's and Spirit's so-called research on the Corporate Blog. >>

>> 'So-called'? I think we did some fine work if I do say so myself ... <<

>> They should not be too difficult to find for someone who is a good researcher - and not only a so-called one. ;-) <<

<<Just having some fun with the obscurity of what we're studying here -- pixie-dust-induced mental illness and corporate-controlled messages.>>

Isn't it better than discussing which character breakfast is best?

<<Of course you two are the best darn researchers LP has to offer. (Well, at least as long as we aren't talking about the history of Disney restrooms.)>>

We know that we can't possibly compete with the Porcelain Crown Wearing King. No worries there ...

<<Really, though, this may be a somewhat obscure subject -- especially to people who don't visit Disney theme park message boards. But I think there is something very important about what Spirit pointed out way back around the first pages of this 2500 page thread. The use of the internet/social media/technology by corporations is a subject that is ripe for examination and discussion. In academic circles, it's something of a truism that capitalism absorbs any resistance to or criticism of itself. From the looks of this thread, it certainly appears that the medium that permitted and encouraged free-thought and critique of the Disney corporation back in the 1990s and early 2000s is now throughly used to solidify high levels of the pixie-dusted message by the p'dusters. You think about the way that we absorb information about our world apart from what we know about Disney's parks and you realize that this discussion about corporate-controlled messages isn't small potatoes. (Did I spell that right, Dan Quayle?)>>

No, it isn't. And that's why we're over 1,000 posts, with probably 85% of them on topic and adding something. And, make no mistake about it, this thread is getting read by many others far and wide ... it's really become so much more than what it was simply started as. What Disney is doing is dangerous for so many reasons and in so many ways.

<<Kudos to LP for allowing this thread to exist. Not many Disney boards that would've tolerated it, I suspect.>>

I agree wholeheartedly and I think speaks volumes about the character of the characters that run this Place. There's no reason why it shouldn't exist on any free-thinking forum about Disney, but the reality is Disney controls far more of the 'fan community', both directly and indirectly, than most people want to think about.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<You think about the way that we absorb information about our world apart from what we know about Disney's parks and you realize that this discussion about corporate-controlled messages isn't small potatoes.>>

<<I absolutely agree, the issue we are discussing here is much wider than just Disney - even though it makes sense that we are focussing on Disney since this board is about it and it is an interesting example.>>

Oh, yes. This isn't a Disney issue. But I've never seen a corporation like Disney act to this degree at controlling the message. I am not at all surprised, unfortunately.

Social Media can be a great tool when it is used for true communication and feedback, not so much when it wants to make tools out of consumers/fans.

<<But that wider context is the reason why I find it so interesting. And it has changed my view on Social Media quite a bit. Seemed like it did the same for others as well. I remember there were some people saying a few pages back that they deleted their facebook accounts (I did the same a few weeks ago btw).>>

I know quite a few people who have deleted FB accounts or use them for very little now. That beats creating a huge digital footprint that everyone from jilted lovers to prospective employers to banks debating giving you a loan to government agencies can collect on you ...

<<And it is the reason why this thread will get to the 1000 posts (I just hope nobody blunders on the following dalmations post!!).>>

I peeked ahead ... look like we're headed to 2001 now!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Social Media has its place in commercial ventures, such as my local food store advertising special sales or offering new recipes. But the manner in which Disney is utilizing it is not much different than the 21st century lap dancer. It looks like the real deal from a distance, but not when it's your lap that Disney is gyrating all over.>>

SKINNER!!! (doing my best Principal Chalmers impression)

Why did you have to compare it to a lap dance?

Have you see Disney's Social Media Department? I'm not sure prison inmates would want lap dances from most of them ...

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Dude also tweeted that Space Mountain goes 45 mph and calls Philharmagic a 3D ride.

Looks to me like Disney just forked over the cash and said, "Please say stuff about us!"

I would've expected them to at least have some quality-control measures. Guess not.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Well I started to throw up a little in my mouth, but then I actually kept reading Spirit's post, and then . . .

Well, needless to say, I'm off to Best Buy. (Since computer peripherals and copious amounts of projectile vomit don't mix.)>>

Well, if you blog enough about how amazing Best Buy is maybe you soon won't be paying for electronics again!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<I really don't know what to say... How, why and when became blogging about your personal life a career?>>

Isn't it a great 'career'? What a way to 'work'!

I'm starting to think I should be paid $1 per word for my posts here on LP.com ... and have a month's free vacations at Disney resorts worldwide annually (all expenses included, naturally!)

<<But I guess it is only one step further from reality TV: there the human fascination with watching other people's lives was exploited for TV ratings, now it is used as a billboard for a company's product.>>

I dunno. I think most people ... even those dumb enough to watch crap like Jersey Shore and Kardashians and that ilk do realize it isn't really real. That it's all staged ... even when I accidentally tune into one sister giving the other a bikini wax!

But there are other 'reality' shows where you are not being told what's really going on ... like HGTV with House Hunters and you turn it on believing the premise, these people are really looking to move and need a home. Only when you do online digging (or know people in the business) do you realize the overwhelming majority of their subjects are either realtors or PR officials with connections to tourism in the area and the like. They are not as they are represented in the show. For the show to succeed, though, the audience has to be duped.

Did I mention how successful these show are?

Oh, and when I have more time remind me to tell you how real those extreme couponing shows are too!
(Hint: if you want to get arrested at your local grocery store and/or banned from entering any major retailer, just go into a store and try and replicate what you see on TV!)

<<But what if things turn out to be not so happy and clean under the surface? We've discussed this before with regard to the Disney bloggers etc. One would think that they did look at this papiblogger in depth before handing over all of that money. But you never know, things can change easily and end up nasty.>>

Well, Papi, is legit. ... Or as legit as someone doing what he does is. He and his wife are PR pros and they have found a niche to exploit and companies more than willing to throw money at them to talk positively about their products.

But, yeah, I have mentioned that many of the people Disney is getting into bed with are carrying all sorts of diseases ... social, of course!

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<Why? But if you end up there, I guess you would see it as an honour. ;-) And you would be in good company with the Spirit on that list...>>

<<I've been confronting @DisneyParks on Twitter about their shenanigans. Namely, their silly and incorrect #disneyfyi tweets that contain no information.>>

You really like living dangerously, don't you? ;-)

<<And on Friday, they were trying to distract people from talking about Potter and Universal opening Wizarding World free for moviegoers by spamming Twitter with senseless tweets and old concept are for New Fantasyland.>>

Oh yeah, I loved that. Total dumb desperation move to make sure the eyes were on Disney and not Uni.
Didn't Jen put that up and then run and not answer questions when everyone was pointing out that the art was old?

Better than Thomas, I guess. He was utterly lost on the DD (Hyperion Wharf is dead and we've told never to use that term in an official capacity again) gets bowled over deal.

Responded to three comments, one by his pal Lou Mongello ... and then he ran and hid as well.

Don't get into the game if you are incapable of playing, guys.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

<<And yes, I would consider it an honor. Better to be on the sames list as Spirit than be on a list with the 3 Shillketeers (Tom, Lou, MAGICalSteve)>.

I would have you on my team, any day ... but do realize I will own your soul and you must have fanboi tears to survive.

But ... the immortality thing is really way kewl ... and the invisibility cloak ... you haven't lived until you hover over Phil Holmes taking a shower!

 

Originally Posted By macnak81

How did this thread get over 1000 posts? What other topic has ever generated this much traffic?

 

Originally Posted By ReelJustice

^^because this is a serious subject that affects us all