Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But again I'm labeled as wrong because I don't think that the federal government, the one group in this country that probably needs to be watched the closest is setting the rules.> But nobody said that. Nobody said that the guys at the SEC should have been surfing porn, or that they shouldn't be "watched." All I said was that the fact that some SEC guys surfed for porn does not compute to "therefore, we don't need the financial regulations we had for 70 years that did a really good job of staving off exactly what we've seen in recent history." I know you work in life insurance. By your logic, if some guys at a life insurance company were caught surfing porn (and you KNOW there have to be some), therefore the life insurance industry is not to be trusted or what they do isn't valuable. It just doesn't follow.
Originally Posted By DAR RE20: And you're naive to think the Democrats will automatically make things better.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Who said anything of that sort? I'll I wrote was that Republicans created this mess, and they have NO IDEA or ANY MOTIVATION to undo the mess. I stated nothing about Dems being able to "automatically make things better." You, DAR, are incredibly naive to think that Republicans actually want things to be better. If they did, they wouldn't be constantly worshipping at the Altar of the Almighty Filibuster if they did. Democrats are NOT the best solution. But Republicans are FAR WORSE. American politics: the lesser of two evils.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox If I cannot have the government that I truly desire, if I'm forced to choose between two lesser ruling parties, then I will do as I have to do with most of the choices in my private life... I will choose the one which causes the least amount of harm. This is American politics until true campaign reform can be achieved. But neither the Democrat incumbents nor the Republican incumbents want to change our election process. So... we're stuck. And between the Republicans and Democrats, I'll keep voting for the Democrats. Democrats care more about the middle class than the Republicans. I'm part of the American middle class, and believe in having a strong American middle class. Therefore, I will continue to vote for the Dems over the Republicans. Anyone in the American middle class who continues to vote against their own self-interest by voting for the party that continues to tear down the American middle class is a moron. M-O-R-O-N. It all started with Reagan. The Republican dismantling of the American middle class is nearly complete. Go ahead and vote Republican again in November and in 2012 to drive in the final coffin nail.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 Rachel Maddow had a good illustration (even if she had some technical difficulties) of what impact some of the GOP ideas on how to "fix" the economy will have on the deficit. Here it is: <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#38252571" target="_blank">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26...38252571</a> If they enact all of the things they want to the deficit will soar and the economy will be far worse than it is now.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>But again I'm labeled as wrong because I don't think that the federal government, the one group in this country that probably needs to be watched the closest is setting the rules.<< Like it has been pointed out, some of those rules served us well until they were repealed, and once they were it didn't take long to get to where we are now. Corporations need to be regulated. History has shown that they can't be trusted and the that they won't "self police" nor will the "invisible hand" of the market keep them in check. If we let them run unchecked we'll end up back where we where 150 years ago: a plantation economy ruled by robber barons. And we are well on our way there as in the past 10 years the super rich have doubled their share of the national wealth, a trend that will continue until they have all the money.
Originally Posted By Mr X Kooroots, can I plagiarize that? I'm in an argument with a right winger right now and that comment sums up exactly what I want to say on the matter.
Originally Posted By tiggertoo <<^^FWIW the Glass Steagall act worked like a charm>> Yep, and it baffles me that they didn't just fine tune and reinstate it. Okay...I'm not really baffled.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Yep, and it baffles me that they didn't just fine tune and reinstate it. Okay...I'm not really baffled.<< Neither am I. The "boyz" don't want it, and since they own most of congress it won't be resinstated.
