Originally Posted By fkurucz "I guess I just don't know any families with kids who aren't already wanting to visit the parks." I know plenty of families who have never been to a Disney themepark, and who have no plans to visit.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Note that I said "want" to. I really don't know any with young kids who haven't at least considered it. My only point in this is that I don't think that resorts like the Aulani will drive additional traffic to the parks. I think they will drive people to explore places outside of their usual trips to WDW and Anaheim, because it makes other destinations "Disney" enough for the Disney fans.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 yes, they absolutely exist...there are lots of other interests out there..some I get some I don't, but everyone is not a Disney fan--or an amusement park fan
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I also know there are plenty of people who wouldn't ever go to another country unless they could stay within the boundaries of a Sandals-type resort. Disney could do very well in that line of business.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>but everyone is not a Disney fan--or an amusement park fan<< True. That being the case, would such a family choose a resort with a waterpark and other Disney stuff?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 not often..... there would be a few who had just not been exposed who might like it, but the majority have already made that decision
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<I don't think your comparison really works, I still think that if you travel to a foreign country, it makes no sense to seek out the stuff that is a transplant from your own culture.>> I don't think it works either. And mind you I'm not in any way suggesting that DLP in anyway is a "lacking" Disney park. For example, I have been to Washtington DC dozens of times and have yet to visit the Phillips Collection to see Renoir's Luncheon of the Boating Party. Would I like to see that painting, sure. But, it's all in the eye of the beholder. If a friend was asking you or I for advise on what to visit while in Washington DC, chances are we would give different advise. One person might suggest visiting the Lincoln Memorial and I would probably suggest going to the Corcoran to see John Singer Sargent's Oyster Gatherers of Cancale.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<What everyone forgets is that WDW is an ENTERTAINMENT VENUE.>> Which basically explains why I don't like Disney's darkrides. I don't call having my body mannipulated and strobe lights flashing "entertainment". I would just assume stay home and get into a dark closet with a strobe light. It would certainly cost much less. Nor do I call it entertainment when I get on a ride/ attraction and experience a simulated near death experince ( like crashing on Mars ). Nor do I call it entertainment to go to a park ( like Epcot ) and experience pavallion after pavallion watching movies. I could do that at home on my LCD backlit HD TV. << Instead of comparing prices to your local Denny's compare prices to what you pay at a major league ballpark or concert venue.>> Even Ted Turner brings his own food and water to Braves games and he owns the team.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<I don't think it works either. And mind you I'm not in any way suggesting that DLP in anyway is a "lacking" Disney park. For example, I have been to Washtington DC dozens of times and have yet to visit the Phillips Collection to see Renoir's Luncheon of the Boating Party. Would I like to see that painting, sure. But, it's all in the eye of the beholder. If a friend was asking you or I for advise on what to visit while in Washington DC, chances are we would give different advise. One person might suggest visiting the Lincoln Memorial and I would probably suggest going to the Corcoran to see John Singer Sargent's Oyster Gatherers of Cancale.>> Ok, no one should ask me for advise on what to see at Washington DC, I have never been there. I understand what you are saying: it is a matter of personal taste and priorities and everyone has a right to be different. And I think in a way Spirit was taking that into account. He says "if you are a disney fan" and assumes that everyone posting here is. So I guess your comparison does not work either. It wouldn't just be some random person's suggestion of sights, but from a friend with whom you share interests.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Top five things to see in DC: Museum of American History National Gallery of Art Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden Vietnam Veterans Memorial Lincoln Memorial
Originally Posted By danyoung >The food at Disney's theme parks is not special, for the most part. And that's why I think the food pricing is outrageous.< I just could not disagree with this more. I enjoy eating just about any type of food, and am happy with fast food while at home. But on vacation I tend to dine very well, and I've had many many nice dinners at several of the restaurants at WDW. I do agree that they've dumbed down their menus in the past few years as a response to the vast numbers of dining plan folks who apparently don't know the difference between a fine dining meal and a burger or mac n cheese. But I've almost always been able to find some great food, in an atmosphere unavailable just about anywhere else. I'd guess that the prices for food are probably higher than most other places. But I'm paying for the whole experience, and am happy to pay more for what I get at WDW or DL.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<If you're a first timer, how are you going to know that there was ever something other than Disco Yeti at EE? >> Anecdotal evidence, of course, but I've heard my fair shares of "Where was the yeti?" or "That's it, he didn't even move!" while riding EE the past few years.
Originally Posted By Tony C Let's not forget that those that populate the message boards of various sites are but a small minority of the fandom be it Disney or other interests.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I'd guess that the prices for food are probably higher than most other places. But I'm paying for the whole experience, and am happy to pay more for what I get at WDW or DL.>> Agreed.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 Even Ted Turner brings his own food and water to Braves games and he owns the team -------------- now that's funny
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer All I can say to this business of WDW being overpriced is to compare it to the past of the resort. Compare what a one day ticket to the MK gets you now, rather than in 1988. And I of course, am talking about more attractions, more entertainment, and a lot more variety in food and merch, back then. Now? Ehhh... You get a lot of the same.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I get the exact same gasoline for my car that I got in 1988 too - jut pay 3 times as much for it. I get the exact same experience watching the Cubs at Wrigley Field as I got in 1988 - or 1968 for that matter except instead of $4 bleacher seats - for certain games they are now $80...the cheapest $40
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<All I can say to this business of WDW being overpriced is to compare it to the past of the resort. Compare what a one day ticket to the MK gets you now, rather than in 1988.>> I disagree. If you are a one-day-tripper I see your point. But if you are there for a week I think you get more for your money now. My first trip to WDW was in 1991 and if I remember correctly a one-day ticket cost somewhere between $40 and $50. Currently a seven-day hopper is priced at $45.80 a day, and there is MUCH more to see now than there was then. The Studios has far more attractions now than it did in 1991, and of course Animal Kingdom added a whole new (and in my mind fantastic) park.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom <<Even Ted Turner brings his own food and water to Braves games and he owns the team -------------- now that's funny>> But absolutely true.
