Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Like a last meal, if I had a day to ride 10 WDW attractions in their peak form. A perfect WDW attraction day ...<<< Not fair, half of those are no longer. That way my list would look really different now: 1. Illuminations 2. American Adventure 3. Horizons 4. Spaceship Earth 5. World of Motion 6. Kilemenjaro Safari 7. Carousel of Progress 8. Tower of Terror 9. Timekeeper 10. Listen to the Land
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo FWIW, things that are largely in the other resorts such as RNRC and PotC are missing from my list because I find they are superior at the other resorts. Rule of thumb with a few exceptions, if an attraction is in WDW and another resort, WDW is likely to have the weaker and less maintained version.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Oh Happy Haunt, you are going to love Disneyland - I am sure the train alone will be awesome for you (there is so much to see at DL). WDW has the least amount to be seen on the train, with DLP even having more to see than WDW. We were so disappointed with the MK train. You will also no doubt love the California versions of PotC and Grizzly River Rapids.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Paris, it is 3 seconds faster and instead of cardboard flats, it has lighting rigs and smoke machines with the premise that we are at the filming of a video(however, I have to say that WDW has a much better exterior, the exterior at WDSP is really dull in comparison, especially now the Aerosmith tour bus is missing).
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Oh Happy Haunt, you are going to love Disneyland>> We were going to visit last year but, with the expansion, we booked DCL instead! I'm going to get there! I can't wait to see the light on in Uncle Walt's apartment *tears*
Originally Posted By Disneymom443 I'm a little late for coming back this is an answer to post #14 Yes I ment to put HM... I didn't see that I put HH.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 1. Pirates of the Caribbean 2. Rock N Roller Coaster 3. Space Mountain 4. Splash Mountain 5. Haunted Mansion 6. Kilimanjaro Safari's 7. Dinosaur 8. Big Thunder 9. Spaceship Earth 10. TTA (This is subject to change)
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Curious -- where else is RNRC?<< Not only is it in Paris, but it is off-the-shelf Vekoma not proprietary to Disney. A close to identical version (no sound system, faster) was found outside in Six Flag's old park in Holland. An odd choice for Six Flags, because typically they like coasters with an open stream-lined layout. Could've been the nature of an international park v. domestic. Disney switched from having a desire for a custom layout, to, (in my imagination) basically calling up Vekoma and seeing what is available with little consideration for typical Disney imagineering. LSM coaster launches are weak too. Another knock against this coaster. Will take the Mummy's or Hulk's Orlando launch any day. Flight of Fear, while also cheap on theme, was at least a better version of an indoor launched coaster. Premiere's layout with a LIM launch was a much better version. I can go on and on about what a mediocre implementation this was for Disney. Especially when it came to what potential there was for something even better. But I won't, I'm sure I am beating a dead horse.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>I love Tower of Terror... I think it is the best attraction at WDW. But how is the Library pre-show anything other than a "simple screen"?<< Because at Tower, guests can walk inside the room itself with the props. They can touch, feel, see. They are part of the room and its set design. They are interacting (not Disney's A.D.D. idea of interacting) with the space. At RNRC, guests are in a bland viewing area looking into an interesting room. For that effect to work, sure, I get it, but it is poor design. Guests should be IN an interesting room. This was one of the attractions designed with this trend in their queues. M:S another one. Bland queue, looking AT the gravity wheel, looking AT the control room. The queue should have been themed itself to something akin to the gravity wheel. Disney use to put guests IN these environments. Now, just more short-cuts in fleshing out a themed environment.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>Not fair, half of those are no longer. That way my list would look really different now: 1. Illuminations 2. American Adventure 3. Horizons 4. Spaceship Earth 5. World of Motion 6. Kilemenjaro Safari 7. Carousel of Progress 8. Tower of Terror 9. Timekeeper 10. Listen to the Land << Cool list Dave. I know it's no fair, but it's no fair that Disney removed what were some top 10 attractions and then replaced them with drivel. I wanted to figure a way to get Timekeeper on my list, but it was hard to keep show formats on the top 15. I went 15 in case folks wanted to exclude attractions no longer available.
Originally Posted By FenwayGirl 1. Peter Pan Flight 2. Carousel of Progress 3. American Adventure 4. TTA 5. Tower of Terror 6. Rock n Rollercoaster 7. FoTLK 8. Soarin 9. Spaceship Earth 10. Test Track. there are many others, but this is my "must do" every trip.
Originally Posted By wahooskipper Mike, I appreciate your take with regards to RNRC but I think there is more to it. Hollywood Blvd was super congested prior to the coaster. Tower of Terror drove huge crowds and I think the plan to relocate the BATB theatre as well as build Fantasmic must have been forseen. That said, they needed something to eat people up off the midway and, given space restrictions, there were only so many options. I think RNRC served its purpose while being a good ride with some Disney touches that aims at the thrill crowd.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Hollywood Blvd was super congested prior to the coaster. Tower of Terror drove huge crowds and I think the plan to relocate the BATB theatre as well as build Fantasmic must have been forseen. That said, they needed something to eat people up off the midway and, given space restrictions, there were only so many options. I think RNRC served its purpose while being a good ride with some Disney touches that aims at the thrill crowd.>> Unfortunately, it really doesn't fit in with it's surroundings.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Wahoo, I agree with you on the need. My issue is not with a rock n roll coaster, but rather with Disney's end result and its placement relative to Sunset. No doubt, it needed to be placed at the end of Sunset but because of consideration for the animation complex's parking deck it was flopped down. What at one time was a custom layout with better sets and scenes (bluesky), ended up with a coaster in a box. Rnrc was Disney taking the path of least resistence, quickly. Because of the need you call out very well. Because past projects for that area were never approved and it left the park in a bind logistically. Mgm's development path has always been out of reaction. Since day one. It would be nice to see that change with new, substantial additions.
Originally Posted By ChiMike Sorry, Mgm's development has always been driven by a reactive nature of those in charge. It would be nice to see planners become more proactive with the park.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb I'm leaving off anything I can experience as good or better (PotC, Buzz) at DLR 1. Kilimanjaro Safari 2. Expedition Everest 3. Test Track 4. Philharmagic 5. People Mover 6. American Adventure 7. Hall of Presidents 8. Rockin' Roller Coaster 9. Living with the Land 10. The Great Movie Ride Special mention to Splash Mountain, Haunted Mansion and Jungle Cruise which are slightly better than Disneyland's versions IMO.
Originally Posted By Bolna <<What at one time was a custom layout with better sets and scenes (bluesky), ended up with a coaster in a box.>> ChiMike, can you tell us more about what it was supposed to be? I would be really interested in knowing what I missed.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>Special mention to Splash Mountain, Haunted Mansion and Jungle Cruise which are slightly better than Disneyland's versions IMO.<<< I would agree there, except I can't remember what was different with HM, other than the exterior. We only rode it once so I guess that's why. I liked Jungle Cruise WAY better. Splash was very cool, except I wish I was expecting to get wet that first time...I got it right in my face!
Originally Posted By ChiMike >>ChiMike, can you tell us more about what it was supposed to be? I would be really interested in knowing what I missed.<< The story goes that they were emboldened by Space Mountain's sound installation to bring a rock and roll coaster to MGM. I know in one of the coffee table books about ten years ago there was a conceptual sketch/rendering of an early idea for it. At one point it was an outside coaster. At one point it was a coaster which traveled in more defined spaces (rooms, what have you) rather than one big box. Scenes were more compartmentalized, prior to and during the gravity portion of the ride. e.g. Hollywood "O", pre launch show scene Set pieces were more fully realized I believe I had heard after they settled on Aerosmith they mocked up a rendering with their song "Living on the Edge" or whatever it is called. Anyways, the soundtrack was supposed to be more specific to presenting the attraction's narrative. Not just a random jukebox playing of a title. Storyline was not so specific about recording studio, but rather generic RnR with Chevy ride vehicle. Sorry can't be much more help. I just remember all the scuttlebutt about it leading up to the construction. Some of it probably untrue, nevertheless was disappointed when it was clear during construction what the project was about.
