Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I do think, though, that modern audiences want or expect Disney things that appeal to small children in their group more than ever before. Either that or it needs to have a thrill aspect to it. It's hard to imagine an original theater show with a historical slant like Lincoln or The American Adventure being built in a Disney theme park today.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Even Star Tours became boring after some time." The marvels of 1960's AA technology aside, Star Tours was always way more exciting than Carousel of Progress.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "I guess you're right, but then again, Walt Disney created quite a number of attractions that bored children (and adults!) ranging from Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln to Carousel of Progress." HAHA, seeing people sleeping on COP was the best part of the show.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo I love the CoP, but that's got to be all nostalgia at this point. I love how each scene is about a 20 year jump until the last one, which is, what, a 70 year jump? Pretty jarring. The last one is longer than the first three combined.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 That's be because when it premiered they were all 20 year jumps. 1900's, 20's, 40's and 60's. Haven't seen it in ages, but I guess they never changed the first three scenes.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I can think of 2, but my kids share my off-kilter world view." I don't know that it's a good product design if you have to be able to appreciate crappiness to enjoy it. There are lots of terrible things that I enjoy, movie, music, books, etc. But Regis Philbin? Drew Carey? Come on, I have to draw the line somewhere!
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance How could anyone who dislikes characters taking over all of the attractions because it dumbs down the experience and cheapens everything into one big commercial NOT be opposed to a ride that features in the moment Disney related crappy celebrities!?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>How could anyone who dislikes characters taking over all of the attractions because it dumbs down the experience and cheapens everything into one big commercial NOT be opposed to a ride that features in the moment Disney related crappy celebrities!? << Some things are unknowable.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>I don't know that it's a good product design if you have to be able to appreciate crappiness to enjoy it. << Again, it was a silly little C-ticket, not the second coming of Pirates of the Caribbean. I think I qualified it by saying that it would not have held up well. I didn't cry when they closed it. But for all the hysterics about it, it sort of fit in with the vibe they were going for with DCA 1.0 -- here & now vs. somewhere in time. It wasn't a "great" ride or a classic or anything, but some of the outrage over it was (and remains) way over the top.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "That's be because when it premiered they were all 20 year jumps. 1900's, 20's, 40's and 60's." Well, yeah. That's kind of obvious.
Originally Posted By phruby What bothered me in COP is they never explain how the parents are now over 120 years old. That is one ride that seriously needs to be replaced. It doesn't make any sense anymore.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "That's be because when it premiered they were all 20 year jumps. 1900's, 20's, 40's and 60's." <Well, yeah. That's kind of obvious.> Maybe not to everyone who posts here, especially some of the younger folks, who might be interested.
Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes >>>"But I think it is the one ride that is almost 100% painted flats." Yes, making it a feel a little cheap. <<< Sorry it gives you that feeling. I wouldn't want it changed. It's a throwback to the dark rides I went on as a kid, not just at DL, but at Playland at the Beach, the Santa Cruz Boardwalk, etc. The art work is very well done and the little things like the sensation of going over timbers while on the wharf, the train, etc are very clever. It's sure a different ride than say Peter Pan with all the 3-D props, but I like it very much all the same.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan The only thing that could improve Mr. Toad is if they could work Jackie Chan into it somehow. ; ) Hey, maybe V8 could sponsor Mr. Toad's Wild Ride!
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "and the little things like the sensation of going over timbers while on the wharf, the train, etc are very clever." That is one of nice touches.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I don't know where I'm supposed to put my Radiator Springs Racers impressions, but here goes nothing. My opinion about the attraction essentially mirrors my pre-ride pre-judging opinion with a few more details. Overall, I admire the craft, that is, it's technically impression. I recommend entering via the Pacific Wharf. I'm amazed they managed to cram that impressive vista into what seems to be a small space. It lack the footprint of Mount Prometheus, it seems, but they packed so much in there. However, I'm not just interested in the content. Cars and its sequel were my least favorite Pixar films. There was one aspect of Cars I enjoyed (highways bypassing a rural town), and no aspect of Cars 2 I enjoyed. Of course, I'm not the target demographic, so it won't quite matter. Some odds and ends. -The fast parts have some good headchoppers. -The rockwork is on par with that of Mount Prometheus. -The ride broke down as we were about to board, resulting in a 15 minute delay. -The windshield is an obstruction. It mutes the colors and detail and gets in the way. I understand the cars need to have eyes, but it's an obstacle. -The Cars-like decals they added to the monorail really have to go. They are tacky and ugly. That's pretty much it. I enjoyed it overall, and it's very impressive, but it's not something I feel I can personally connect with.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I can't believe I forgot this. The best part about RSR's story is that noone went missing and nothing went terribly wrong. As far as plot goes, I was pleased. This should please the Reimagineering crowd.
Originally Posted By barboy ///-The rockwork is on par with that of Mount Prometheus/// But Cadillac Range does not have anything as momentous as a fire and lava eruption. And it has nothing near the caliber of a mine vehicle and drilling into the volcano's side to entice would be explorers walking the caldera's perimeter. As for the actual rockwork per se I'm sure Caddy is on par with Mnt. Prometheus. ///-The ride broke down as we were about to board, resulting in a 15 minute delay/// Can you say Test Track or Journey to Center of Earth ///-The windshield is an obstruction. It mutes the colors and detail and gets in the way. I understand the cars need to have eyes, but it's an obstacle./// better to have open viewing like the volcano's mine cars. Also, I question the 2 rows of 3 seats. Again those mine cars got it right with 3 rows of 2 seats.......you get the same capacity but with a more favorable arrangement.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones "But Cadillac Range does not have anything as momentous as a fire and lava eruption." Absolutely. Mount Prometheus has also been part of the shows playing on the water in Mediterranean Harbor. But the actual rockwork has that closeup detail that Mount Prometheus has. They are also representing different geology, which makes it kind of hard to compare, but both get the job done.
Originally Posted By planodisney Well, the fact that we are comparing something in DCA to something in TDS because it is unmatched anywhere else, is kinda amazing!!
