Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Ariel should have been a boat ride . . >> Wow, the underwater scenes would be interesting to pull off.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I still think that DCA needs to add a few smaller, dark ride style attractions before it could ever really compete with DL.>> Why do so many think that DCA needs to be a DL Junior? Besides, DCA already has a pretty charming dark ride with Monsters. Animal Kingdom has no dark rides... they are not ESSENTIAL to a Disney Park. That is why DCA 1.0 was so poorly received... the locals were looking for DL Junior. Think OUTSIDE the box!
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA The horrible open staircase on the side of the Hyperion, plus the uncovered 'bullpen' that you had to stand in to wait for the show to start -- probably one of the worst areas in any Disney theme park. Just dumb.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<That is why DCA 1.0 was so poorly received... the locals were looking for DL Junior.>> No, guests were simply looking to be entertained to the level that Soarin' Over California provided, only throughout the park.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "I've also read rumors about a redo of Sunset Blvd that would finally enclose the waiting are of the Hyperion and do away with the movie studio backdrop at the end of Hollywood Blvd. Here's the concept art that was displayed at Blue Sky Cellar:" So they actually displayed the plans to make changes to the area at the BSC and then changed took it down and made no more mention of it?
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Why do so many think that DCA needs to be a DL Junior? Besides, DCA already has a pretty charming dark ride with Monsters. " I don't think me making a comment constitues as "so many people" feeling anyway. Just me stating MY opinion on what ***I*** feel would change MY perception on DCA when comparing it to DL. Why do so many people feel like someone else's opinion is any way less valid their their own!? In my opinion dark rides ARE essential for MY families enjoyment of the parks. If you feel that makes my opinion a wish to "Disney Jr" the parks, maybe that's because a lot of my enjoyment from the parks stems from the enjoyment it brings my two Disney Jr's. So hush your mug! SHEESH!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "No, guests were simply looking to be entertained to the level that Soarin' Over California provided, only throughout the park." I agree, but I do think that there are a lot of Southern Californians who have a fanatical emotional attachment to Disneyland and because of it there's nothing Disney can do that will make them like DCA more than the original park. "So they actually displayed the plans to make changes to the area at the BSC and then changed took it down and made no more mention of it?" Yep. Here's a screen shot of the Hyperion model from one of the Blue Sky Cellar films: <a href="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d20/nonob88/Screenshot2011-01-28at112901PM.png" target="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...01PM.png</a> Here's another piece of concept art, which resembles the Tower Theater in Los Angeles: <a href="http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.com/photos/1170439726_zCmjD-M.jpg" target="_blank">http://mintcrocodile.smugmug.c...jD-M.jpg</a> Apparently a great deal of what was planned for the DCA remodel (a new canopy for King Triton's carousel, a circular pier around the Fun Wheel, a themed queue for Screamin', etc) ended up getting put back on the shelf and the budgets for DCA's tent pole projects (Cars Land, BV Street and WoC) got beefed up a bit. Someone more in the know might be able to elaborate on this.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Animal Kingdom has no dark rides.>> And it's a terrible park. What's your point?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<And it's a terrible park. What's your point?>> Different strokes for different folks... I think it is WDW's second best park following Epcot.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I don't think me making a comment constitues as "so many people" feeling anyway. Just me stating MY opinion on what ***I*** feel would change MY perception on DCA when comparing it to DL.>> Your opinion is fine and dandy, as is mine. I just heard many people say that DCA wasn't "Disney enough" when it first opened... I think many locals did have a pre-conceived notion of what a Disney Park should be. As an "outsider" I think I was able to enjoy it more on it's own terms than many of the locals were. JMHO. And that notion apparently prevailed... the new DCA is much more "Disney" than DCA 1.0.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>there are a lot of Southern Californians who have a fanatical emotional attachment to Disneyland<< The keepers of the kingdom. ;-) >> the fact is DCA was never intended to get that many people in the first place. << Apparently you never saw the original cue they built for Muppetvision, huh.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb >>>Why do so many people feel like someone else's opinion is any way less valid their their own!?<<< *clap, clap, clap* Bravo! *standing ovation*
Originally Posted By da_tick DCA's attendance seems to have picked up, we had to share a table @ the Wharf. The Mad Tea Party area was also crowded Sun. We heard a rumor that when Mickey's Halloween Event is shifted back, MTP is going to be a private party area. That doesn't seem quite fair, but I guess if they charge what can you do.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I think it is WDW's second best park following Epcot." Me too. I went once and loved it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>there are a lot of Southern Californians who have a fanatical emotional attachment to Disneyland<< "The keepers of the kingdom. ;-)" Awesome timing. You win the prize.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<"The keepers of the kingdom. ;-)">> If you read at a 6th grade level, there is a series of books JUST FOR YOU!! Yea, I know. I've read them too. I just can't help myself.
Originally Posted By barboy ///Animal Kingdom has no dark rides... /// Did you forget about Dinosaur aka CTX...........that epitomizes a dark ride.........an "E" ticket at that.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>So Disney spends a billion on the park and adds alot of eye candy and new rides and Disney relaunches it. What if the park still fails? << Then perhaps we'll get lucky .. and there's not even a budget to mess with the classics in DL to make them "More relevant to today's youth!" >>Animal Kingdom has no dark rides... they are not ESSENTIAL to a Disney Park. That is why DCA 1.0 was so poorly received... the locals were looking for DL Junior. Think OUTSIDE the box!<< Lets get one thing straight - There's "thinking outside the box" .. and there's "Building on the Cheap"! I hardly think a series of off the shelf carnival rides, an inundation of film-based attractions, and Superstar Limo equate - Thinking outside box. In the words of Endora - REALLY Samantha! Or in Ethel's terms - Oh Lucy, HONESTLY!
Originally Posted By Moon Waffle I just don't see how on earth DCA will fail again. There has been too much improvement for that to happen, IMO. Yes, there are weak areas, but they are minor now compared to the park as a whole. In fact, I'd argue Disneyland's weak areas (Festival Area, ALL of TL) are worse than DCA's (Parts of Hollywood, parts of PP) at this point in time. They will get attention as the years move on...we don't seriously believe that DCA is never going to get any more new rides or attractions do we?!?!
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Did you forget about Dinosaur aka CTX...........that epitomizes a dark ride.........an "E" ticket at that.>> I don't consider rides like Dinosaur or Indy "dark rides". To me dark rides are more like Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio, Toad, Snow White, etc. Just as I would never consider Buzz Lightyear or Spaceship Earth dark rides.
