Originally Posted By tashajilek "But I think it is the one ride that is almost 100% painted flats." Yes, making it a feel a little cheap. "I also really enjoy Pinocchio too... maybe just because it is something I don't get to see at WDW. But part of it has to do with the vaguely sinister and decadent feeling presented by portions of the attraction... especially the Pleasure Island section. I dont know why more people dont like Pinocchio? there is so much to look at and yes a little bit dark. I guess Pinocchio could be considered scary for young children like Snow white.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Exactly. The train effect is pretty good, and I do like that it's the one place in Disneyland that sends you to hell." Try coming up with an explanation to the hell scene for an 8 year old, when I'm atheist and don't believe in hell.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>it's the one place in Disneyland that sends you to hell<< Well, that plus Small World. ; )
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Try coming up with an explanation to the hell scene for an 8 year old, when I'm atheist and don't believe in hell." The same way you explain Toontown? Or Carsland? It's all fiction. "Well, that plus Small World." Zing!
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<"But I think it is the one ride that is almost 100% painted flats." Yes, making it a feel a little cheap.>> For myself, I enjoy the painted flats as a truly unique and imaginative art form.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney >>>I am one of the few people who like the Great movie ride<<<< I know I'm late to the party, but I really like the Great Movie Ride! Had Superstar Limo been more like that it would probably have lasted. And I love the idea of using classic stars vs. modern day(at the time). Problem is, many kids don't have any idea who Katharine Hepburn or Cary Grant are.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney LOL, we rode Toad the other day and I always find it odd that you get proclaimed guilty by a judge (still not sure what I'm guilty of), then a train hits you and then you go to hell. What a weird concept for a kid's ride!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <But I think it is the one ride that is almost 100% painted flats.> See, that's neither here nor there to me. Flats vs. macquettes is just a difference in medium. What matters to me is if the experience works. Casablanca may not have the whiz-bang technology of Pearl Harbor (the movie), but which is the better flick? The Triplets of Belleville may have what some would consider primitive animation compared to even a lesser Disney film like The Sword in the Stone. But I'd much rather watch TofB - it works a lot better than SitS. To me, Toad just works, and I love every trip through. TMMV. <The train effect is pretty good> The train effect was actually much better pre-'83. They used to have a longer tunnel. Post '83 the effect hardly starts before it's over. It used to really build, and it felt much more like you were going over train tracks, too. OTOH, Hell is way better now than the very short section they had originally.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<What a weird concept for a kid's ride!>> "Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." - Walt Disney
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "They are like old friends who you run into once in a while." Nicely put.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I always find it odd that you get proclaimed guilty by a judge (still not sure what I'm guilty of)." You are guilty of reckless driving.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "<<What a weird concept for a kid's ride!>> "Your dead if you aim only for kids. Adults are only kids grown up, anyway." - Walt Disney" While it's true that kids shouldn't be the only objective. Is it smart to design an entire attraction that 99.99999% of kids will have no idea what it's about, or even be able to recognize any of the "celebrities" featured? Can you think of any kid who would enjoy a ride like that?
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Can you think of any kid who would enjoy a ride like that?<< I can think of 2, but my kids share my off-kilter world view. ; )
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I guess you're right, but then again, Walt Disney created quite a number of attractions that bored children (and adults!) ranging from Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln to Carousel of Progress.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Is it smart to design an entire attraction that 99.99999% of kids will have no idea what it's about, or even be able to recognize any of the "celebrities" featured?<< The Hall of Presidents is not on trial here!!!
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Is it smart to design an entire attraction that 99.99999% of kids will have no idea what it's about, . . >> Right, or a whole theme park for that matter.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Right, or a whole theme park for that matter.<< EPCOT is not on trial here!
Originally Posted By crapshoot Walt Disney created quite a number of attractions that bored children (and adults!) ranging from Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln . . >> But the technology of Lincoln was a marvel for a long, long time. Now that we're all jaded . . . . . . <<. . . to Carousel of Progress.>> Even Star Tours became boring after some time. The dangers of proscenium type attractions vs attractions built in the round is that the focus is always straight ahead directed to the stage.
