Originally Posted By dizkid The very big difference between Tron and potter is marketability. Potter pretty much advertises itself, just tell people when it will be released and they will come. Tron on the other hand needs to be pushed, and no matter what almost everybody (fanboi or not) thinks that going to a Potter movie is a good descision. It is a basic of brand marketability, a well known product will sell more than a lesser known one.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Saw it today -- really didn't like it -- wouldn't recommend it. Sorry fellow mouth breathers.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 At #141... I almost didn't go to the latest Potter film just because I really didn't like the last one, and I never saw the first two in the theater because the director is one of my least favorite... so it's not such an automatic decision as you imply, though the box office for all the movies would back up your point and not mine. lol. - Anatole
Originally Posted By dizkid I have to say the ones who really have a hard descision on whether or not they want to see the next potter film are the ones who actually know the series, because they are more in tune with whether the film will be bad. Anyways, picking up this thread and putting back on the lightcycle. Do you guys think that Tron could do better this weekend then in it's initial weekend because of holiday crowds?
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ Actually I don't know the series, I haven't read any of the books after the third one. I just know movie directors, and I don't like Chris Columbus or the one that is currently doing the last films of the series. Like I said though, the box office shows most people aren't so concerned about who is directing it, they are going because they are already fans from the books. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA "Tron: Legacy" is going to have a very limited appeal. During today's showing -- very few young kids -- mostly aging Baby Boomers like me -- As stated before, my wife (same age as I am) and 16 year old daughter have no desire to see it.
Originally Posted By dizkid I am sorry that it is not doing as well as other films (ie potter) but I don't think that the amount of people that go to see a movie means that that movie is bad or good. Those two factors have nothing to do with each other. There are many films that had enormous box office, that are now regarded as being fairly bad movies. Heck most people I know say that Avatar was nothing but a director showing off the special effects he could use. And there are many films that didn't do well at the box office that are now considered classics, Blade Runner is ranked as the 27th most money making movie in 1982, even the original Tron did better than it (it came in 22.) Blade Runner, a classic of American Cinema was 27. Clearly a movies earnings are in no way a showing of how good the movie is.
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Clearly a movies earnings are in no way a showing of how good the movie is.>> No one is disputing this. Plenty of good films simply never click with the movie going public when first released in theaters. Fantasia is a stellar example. The topic of the thread is, "What if TRON fails?" The implied presumption being that "fails" refers to financial failure, i.e., poor box office performance. And after the first week of its domestic release, TRON is not doing as well as many would have predicted, myself included. It's only got three more weeks in IMAX before Green Hornet takes over, so I doubt TRON will have much shelf life in any theater after that. It really only has the next ten days to gain some ground before kids return to school, and I just don't see it doing much better than it already has. When all is said and done, considering how much this film cost to make, I believe Disney will be labeling TRON as a fail.
Originally Posted By dizkid Green Hornet has little to no hype around it. It is also being released during the No Man's Land of movie releases. In other words not a holiday weekend, not summer, not spring break, and not winter break. This time period will affect Tron too but I doubt that Green Hornet is gonna offer up much competition.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ Actually it is being released on MLK weekend, a very profitable weekend the studios have discovered over the last few years. Normally they have programmed urban movies for that weekend, this is the first big budget action film they have plugged into that slot, so it may do well for that period. The time after that weekend if problematic since the box office attendance goes down with everyone working and back in school. I'm guessing there will be less competition for 3-D screens though, so maybe that was one of the factors in the studios decision to open the movie then. Also the movie has Jay Chou and in much of Asia the summer holidays occur from late February until early April, so maybe they are going to release it in the Asian market around that time period to take advantage of Jay Chou's popularity in this region. - Anatole - Anatole
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Saw the preview for The Green Hornet before Tron. Seth Rogan as The Green Hornet? Blecch. Looks stupid.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ To each his own, I think it looks funny and entertaining. I love the director Michel Gondry. The only hesitation I have is the fact that it's being released in January where they normally dump the bad movies... but based on the trailer and the director, I am interested to see it. - Anatole
Originally Posted By skinnerbox Box Office Mojo already has holiday weekend estimates up. TRON is coming in third place, behind the pre-sold sequel Little Fockers (natch) and Coen brothers' True Grit: <a href="http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/" target="_blank">http://www.boxofficemojo.com/w...d/chart/</a> After 10 days in theaters, TRON's total so far is about $88 mil. After next weekend when kids return to school, the attendance is going to drop off dramatically. And Green Hornet will take away most of TRON's 3D screens in mid-January. At this rate, TRON will be lucky to finish at $150 mil domestic. Color me confused. I really thought it would do better business than this.
Originally Posted By Anatole69 ^^ I am interested to see what the international business will be. Here in Thailand the screening I attended had many couples, so I am wondering if the international total will be more robust. - Anatole
Originally Posted By magic0214 Reporting $111 million in 10 days, not bad, but not what anyone expected
Originally Posted By magic0214 ^^^Nevermind! Stupid person I follow on twitter with bad info...DARN YOU
Originally Posted By Anatole69 It's 111 million internationally. That info from Twitter is accurate. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Britain Took my two boys, 5 & 7, and they liked it, were restless (and confused) a bit in the middle, but afterward told me they'd like 'Tron suits' for Christmas. The thing is, as really cool as the movie is, it has two big strikes against it: 1) the tone is sober. It's not a downer of a movie at all, but there isn't much humor in it. The Jules Verne line got the biggest laugh. Could have used a smidgen of Pirates' goofiness. 2) the visuals are DESIGNED well, but too many effects rely on digital faces, and, sorry, in EXECUTION, they suck. They aren't Polar Express bad, but they're close. It seems like a HUGE step back from Benjamin Button. And so, the movie can't seem to catch any sort of Avatar "yes the script is simplistic, but this world has incredible verisimilitude" buzz because there's these parenthetical apologies about young Jeff Bridges.
