Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub during the downtime Use your imagination...I always thought the video appearance was the shadow that puts a tingle in your spine cause you know you are in trouble and better run for it! And the track switch is supposed to be the Yeti tearing it to shreds and you better get going fast! Of course my brain does get confused when I am going topsy turvy upside down and backwards in the dark! That is real isn't it?
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Seriously i am planning a trip to WDW very soon. I have to say I am more excited about just relaxing and visiting the world with all the extras. I love to hear all the different languages and usually feel there is maybe hope for the future. Except for a few tense crowd moments it amazes me that people can actually survive all of it. I have noticed society wants to be funny like we all live in a sitcom. Unfortunately sarcasm is not always humorous even in a sitcom. It would be funny to create a sitcom that follows the characters around in their real lifes bottling up the anger they have to endure with some of the stupid written scenes they "live" thru.
Originally Posted By Manfried "The inclusion of Pirates in WDW's Adventureland is vastly superior to setting it in DL's New Orleans Square. You set sail for the Caribbean out of a N'awlins bayou? REALLY?? " Oh brother. The one at Disneyland is still the standard bearer by which all others are measured. WDW's does not even come close.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<Oh brother. The one at Disneyland is still the standard bearer by which all others are measured. WDW's does not even come close.>> Ride itself? You are correct. Setting, show building and queue? MK beats the heck out of DL's Pirates!
Originally Posted By mstaft Re: Post #105- As a Calfornian now in Colorado, I do not see DL Resort as having a more upscale feeling. Not at all- especially with a park like DCA offering carnival rides vs the elegance of Epcot. The DL hotels don't come close to those in WDW. The DL Hotel is nice but not the Grand Floridian, and Downtown Disney is better in California, but it is certainly not as spectacular as seeing the MK from across the laggon while sitting on the beach at the Polynesian, You get the drift...
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///SOME of the critical posts, not all of them. Some of the put-downs I've read, specifically about the quality of people that the All Stars/// The things I have read on here about the All Star demographic and those living in southern states sickens me too.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///the development of the Value and Moderate resorts during the 90's allowed a great many more people to come to WDW./// The value and moderate hotel growth certainly allowed for more **ON PROPERTY** stay but I don't see how that would automatically mean that more visitors would come to the parks. The 50% growth in aggregate WDW guests to WDW since '92 that you mention may have happend irrespective due to: Blizzard Beach Animal Kingdom more offerings(attractions/eats/parties) general population growth cheap air flights weakend US dollar which attracts foreigners
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///Pirates in WDW's Adventureland is vastly superior to setting it in DL's/// OH ABSOLUTELY! And it has a mighty fine queue(pre story) also. But Dl has the far superior actual ride so there is a clear trade off going on.
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///Oh brother. The one at Disneyland is still the standard bearer by which all others are measured./// Actually, Paris laid down the gauntlet with its version; it is noticeably better detailed from facade to queue to ride.
Originally Posted By xrayvision While I really like both U.S. Disney resorts, and have worked for DLR, I currently prefer WDW over DLR because the WDW construction is limited to certain areas that does not distract visually from the whole Disney experience. Construction walls and cranes were less noticeable at WDW, although the back portion of Fantasyland was under development. DLR's parks and DL hotel are experiencing major renovations throughout the entire resort, which is exciting yet not very eye pleasing. The park ticket prices are not that different between the DLR and WDW, yet my most recent experiences at the two resorts was very different visually. Right now, I prefer the visual appearance of WDW over DLR. That feeling may change again after 2012 when Carsland is open, along with all the other rides slated to open at DLR by 2012. But, what will probably happen is I'll enjoy both U.S. Disney resorts equally after 2012 (especially when WDW reopens it's completed Fantasyland expansion).
Originally Posted By Manfried "Actually, Paris laid down the gauntlet with its version; it is noticeably better detailed from facade to queue to ride." No it doesn't. The idea to flip the drop so it comes at the end was not a good design decision at all. And I always love it when fans use the word "detailed" as if that is what makes the attraction great. It is just a factor, but does not make an attraction great. Pinocchio is well detailed but (YAWN) not even a decent attraction.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<As for the changes in demographics...It happens. Happened on another site I used to frequent. I got disgusted, and I left. It's a shame, but it's how these things work sometimes.>> These changes are certainly not for the better. These boards are fairly dominated by one poster in particular who brings a never-ending stream of negativity to these boards. When one person (and his ilk) change the atmosphere of the boards and keep people away, it's nothing to shrug your shoulders over. It's like a nice neighborhood gone bad. I do have to say, EE, that in the posts of yours that I have read, you are not overtly negative in your criticisms. You're always pleasant while being critical and you don't have a maddening air of superiority. I for one appreciate that. There are also several other posters on here who are respectful and don't act like "the World" is ending in every post. There are only a few who beat the dead horse to a pulp every change they get.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey In an effort not to pulverize a deceased equine on my own part, post 172 was my last on this subject. Ya know how I feel - can't make it any clearer.
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb As an example of the "Superiority Dance" that some around here enjoy, I give you the following... >>>Of course, there's also the possibility that spending some time in Central Florida is preferable to living in...say, Louisiana, in which case maybe some of the people sensitive to WDW criticism ("don't say that, Mickey has feelings, too, y'know!") are just happy to be eating hamburgers somewhere that isn't their hometown.<<< Clearly this was aimed at one specific poster, and was NOT cool to my way of thinking. On topic: Has WDW lost *some* of the magic of my early visits? Yes. Is it still a quality vacation destination? Yes. As for comparisons between WDW and DLR, other than being run by the same company with many attractions in common they are very different vacation experiences. Disneyland is my "home" resort and I have to say it has lost a LOT of magic since it went from being Disneyland to Disneyland Resort. I LOVED Disneyland back in the '90s, I can't say it's had my heart since they put DCA in the parking lot and added DTD. I was just there this last weekend for what could have been 2 full days and 2 full nights of Disney fun and although we missed the first night because I was just too tired from driving to hit the parks, we left VERY early on both Saturday and Sunday because we were just done. Been there done that and neither of us (me and 14 YO son) wanted to stay much after spending the morning at the parks. I don't know when we'll bother going back to DLR, but my next trip to WDW is in the planning stages.
Originally Posted By The Duck <<The inclusion of Pirates in WDW's Adventureland is vastly superior to setting it in DL's New Orleans Square. You set sail for the Caribbean out of a N'awlins bayou? REALLY??>> <<<No, you transported there by a magical waterfall in the bayou. And New Orleans was a pirate haven. Setting makes perfect sense.>>> Speaking as a lifelong resident of New Orleans (and surrounding area), I can say that it is geographically impossible for waterfalls and caverns to exist in south Louisiana. The swamp in the DLR PoTC is there solely to make the transition from French Quarter to the Caribbean and as always, a fair amount of imagination helps. PoTC at WDW simply never needed the swamp and while the additional skeleton scenes at DLR add a nice touch, they don't add to the story that the ride tells. Both versions have their pros and cons but the only problem that I have with the current version at WDW is that they removed the talking Jolly Roger during the last renovation. Other than that, it's still one of my favorites.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Construction walls and cranes were less noticeable at WDW, although the back portion of Fantasyland was under development. DLR's parks and DL hotel are experiencing major renovations throughout the entire resort, which is exciting yet not very eye pleasing. << Funny you mention it. My wife was disappointed that the FLE crane next to the Castle could be seen from Main Street. And from the Indy Speedway to Dumbo it felt like one continuous construction wall--which I took 4,000 pictures of. Wanna see?
Originally Posted By leobloom >> As an example of the "Superiority Dance" that some around here enjoy, I give you the following... >>>Of course, there's also the possibility that spending some time in Central Florida is preferable to living in...say, Louisiana, in which case maybe some of the people sensitive to WDW criticism ("don't say that, Mickey has feelings, too, y'know!") are just happy to be eating hamburgers somewhere that isn't their hometown.<<< Clearly this was aimed at one specific poster, and was NOT cool to my way of thinking. << I'm sure anyone to whom that might apply would take it as a joke as it was intended. Y'know, 'Laughing' Place and all! Hahahaha! Tee hee!!
Originally Posted By Autopia Deb With no "smiley" or "lol" how would anyone know it's a joke? If she thinks it's funny, great, I wouldn't have if it were aimed at me with no joke indicators.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey ^^^^^I'm pretty sure that the post Autopia Deb is referring to applies to me. If it was posted by Spirit (which I'm fairly sure it was), I missed it because I've ignored his ego-stroking posts as of late. leobloom, you excuse Spirit because you're one of his followers. I don't see where there is any humor in his comment - the snarky sarcasm is abundant. Yet again, he inflates his own sense of self by putting others down. I'm from New Orleans and I'm proud of it, regardless of Spirit's opinion of me or my hometown. Ya don't like it, don't come visit.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***>>I could be angry that DL isn't run with the same professionalism and care as TDL (duh), but it seems pretty relative when you think about it. << I have no idea what this statement means.*** It means Disneyland sucks bigtime, with a capital "S" and more ucks...compared to the Tokyo Disney Resort, in almost every measurable way. So I find it extremely funny that you hold THAT up as the kind of quality that Florida should live up to. They both suck, relatively speaking of course, so my point was to take them for what they are...America lost it's good old fashioned customer service values a LONG time ago, and not just in Disney parks. I hate weakness and complacency as well, my friend. Why not then tear into Disneyland as you do DisneyWorld rather than hold up something so relatively pathetic as a model for what you want? (and yes, for the rest, this post WAS bombastic and over the top and even a tad silly...much like MousDad's posts, in order to make my point clearer for him since he didn't see to get it last time around )
